Breaking: Speaker Boehner Kills Senate Amnesty Bill

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Breaking: Speaker Boehner Kills Senate Amnesty Bill | Independent Journal Review

I personally sure hope this is the truth!

Kyle Becker
On November 13, 2013
Kyle N. Becker

Speaker John Boehner has halted further talks on the Senate’s immigration package, and has stated that he has “no intention” of going to conference with the Gang of Eight to debate it further. That means amnesty’s not going anywhere in this Congress.

NBC News recently reported:

House Speaker John Boehner says he will not allow any House-passed immigration legislation to be blended with the Senate’s sweeping reform bill, further quashing the chances of comprehensive immigration reform legislation being signed into law anytime soon.

“We have no intention of ever going to conference on the Senate bill,” Boehner told reporters Wednesday.

Boehner did say that while some action will be taken to reform illegal immigration policies, the GOP will not be rushed by the president’s timetable. “We’ve made it clear that we’re going to move on a common sense, step-by-step approach in terms of how we deal with immigration,” the Ohio Republican told a reporter at the Washington Times on Wednesday.

“The idea that we’re going to take up a 1,300-page bill that no one had ever read, which is what the Senate did, is not going to happen in the House,” the Speaker added. “And frankly, I’ll make clear we have no intention of ever going to conference on the Senate bill.”

While some, like Congressman Paul Ryan, believe there should be a conference on the immigration package put forth by the Gang of Eight, several Congressmen, including Senator Marco Rubio, have recently backed away from conference negotiations.

Although amnesty is not off the table in terms of further talks, both formal and informal, House Speaker John Boehner is now on record saying he has no desire to discuss the matter with the Senate. Which means that as far as this Congress is concerned, an amnesty deal is all but dead this year.

Looks like the Republicans might be serious about winning the 2014 elections after all. And the Obama lame duck just got a little lamer.

 

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[smokeythecat]

I saw it on the major news networks today. Apparently somebody MIGHT be looking at putting a band aid on Obamacare.

 

[Peyton Manning]

is that the bill that Rubio authored?

 

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Boehner: House won't negotiate with Senate on immigration bill - Washington Times

Boehner: House won’t negotiate with Senate on immigration bill

By David Sherfinski and Stephen Dinan

The Washington Times

Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Speaker John A. Boehner said Wednesday that House Republicans will not enter into negotiations with the Senate on a massive immigration bill, effectively killing chances this year for a broad deal that would legalize illegal immigrants and rewrite the legal immigration system.

Mr. Boehner, Ohio Republican, said the House will operate on its own timetable and won’t be rushed by President Obama’s suggested year-end deadline or the looming 2014 elections — though he said he does still want to take some action on immigration.

“We’ve made it clear that we’re going to move on a common sense, step-by-step approach in terms of how we deal with immigration,” Mr. Boehner, Ohio Republican, told reporters Wednesday. “The idea that we’re going to take up a 1,300-page bill that no one had ever read, which is what the Senate did, is not going to happen in the House. And frankly, I’ll make clear we have no intention of ever going to conference on the Senate bill.”

The announcement, which came after House Republicans held a closed-door meeting, signals the end of chances for action on immigration this year.

With just a few days left on the calendar, Republicans are focused on other issues and have yet to find the kind of agreement within their own ranks that would be needed to bring bills to the floor.

Indeed, Mr. Boehner said he’s asked House Judiciary Committee Chairman Robert W. Goodlatte to develop a broad set of principles for addressing immigration. That sounds like a step backward, since Mr. Goodlatte has already overseen passage of several specific immigration bills through his committee.

“Let’s understand something. I want us to deal with this issue. But I want to deal with it in a common-sense step-by-step way,” Mr. Boehner said.

Immigrant-rights advocates said Republicans were risking their political lives.

“Should they slow-walk it until they get to ‘no’ this year and in this Congress, Boehner will go down in history as the man that sealed his party’s fate with the fastest growing groups of voters in America,” said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voice, a lobby group.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent a tweet telling Mr. Boehner it should be “easy” to take up immigration.

She pointed to the bill she and fellow House Democrats introduced that would take the Senate’s legalization program, strip out the specific, tough border security measures and replace them with a call for Homeland Security to come up with a security plan.

Mrs. Pelosi said she believes there are the votes to pass her bill through the House.

Three Republicans have signed on as co-sponsors, along with about 180 members of the Democratic Caucus who are able to vote on the House floor.

By contrast, House Republicans are working on a series of bills that would include a smaller legalization, stricter interior enforcement and a rewrite of guest-worker programs.

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, a Florida Republican who has been working with a bipartisan House group on the issue, urged Mr. Boehner “to remain open to any options that allow us to solve this crucial issue.”

It has been said time and time again that our immigration system is broken, and we must come together to find a sensible solution to fix it,” Mr. Diaz-Balart said in a statement. “I continue to work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle on a bill that secures our border, respects the rule of law, strengthens our economy, modernizes the visa system, and addresses the millions of undocumented immigrants in a way that is both reasonable and humane.”

Meanwhile, President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden met Wednesday morning at the White House with faith leaders to discuss the importance of approving immigration reform.

“The leaders expressed their concerns over the impact the broken immigration system is having on families throughout their congregations,” the White House said. “The president and the leaders discussed their shared commitment to raise the moral imperative for immigration reform and said they will continue keeping the pressure on Congress so they can swiftly pass commonsense reform.”

Mr. Obama told the gathering there is “no reason for House Republicans to continue to delay action on this issue.”

“It would show the American people that Washington can still work together to solve our nation’s challenges,” the White House said.

 

[NHBandit]

I'm not sure I understand the problem. Obamacare was pushed through "so we could find out what's in it" and look how well that turned out....

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

I just watched former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy say on national tv, Obama has committed "serial fraud". That if anyone else, had attempted these things, they would have been facing prosecution! At least, this was a former federal prosecutor saying these things, not PeeWee Herman.


Obama deserves no more chances to "pass bills to see what's in them"! He can forget about immigration reformation his way, and he needs to be careful, with stepping on any more of our rights!
There's such a mess to repair right now, ya'll really want him and his "dreaming team" driving this bus?

Program that's suppose to insure the uninsurable, can't even maintain insuring the insured!

 

[onfire]

How can this goof put the word work in a sentence/ When nothing ever works??

 

[Red James Cash]

Its his conscience speaking because its something they dont do.work.

 

[war-digs-it]

I'm skeptical. Little spinal integrity has been shown, until the tidal wave of the people have shown disapproval.

 

[austin]

Don't know if I said this before, but I only voted for him twice because I dislike my cousin and wanted to cancel his vote. Good news from the House, now if the next 3 years will pass quickly and the Jersey governor will run for President. He can beat Clinton and then we'll have a million man march to help him scrub out the White House...

 

[Chadeaux]

Don't know if I said this before, but I only voted for him twice because I dislike my cousin and wanted to cancel his vote. Good news from the House, now if the next 3 years will pass quickly and the Jersey governor will run for President. He can beat Clinton and then we'll have a million man march to help him scrub out the White House...

That feller from New Jersey is just a Fat White Obama. You gotta know your enemies, and know them well. RINO!

 

[Dave44]

At least his dress size may be smaller than Billary's?

 

[Unclebuck257]

At least his dress size may be smaller than Billary's?

LMBO!!!

The problem is that Christie IS SERIOUS about running and strongly believes that he can win the nomination. Let's be clear here too that given a choice between Christie and Hillary, I'd vote for Christie, but I wouldn't want to have to make that choice if it can be helped. However, I believe that we might want to seriously face that possibility because the Repub Party is so splintered right now I do not see anyone else strong enough right now to take the nomination. Let's just hope that someone else STRONG comes to the forefront to run on the Repub ticket.

Hillary will be a strong candidate but not as strong as she once would have been. Her BS on Bengazi and lack of anything of substance as Sec of State will definitely affect her and provide definitive ammunition that can be used against her in a truthful way where people can and will see her complete ineffectiveness and lack of leadership ability. She never had any anyway, but now there is the proof of that.

My big concern is the fracturing of the Repub Party at this point and although I understand how the Tea Party folks feel, I'd hate to see them put up a third party candidate or refuse to vote for the Repub candidate because that particular candidate is not a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul type. In order to recend Obammycare, we first must win the 2014 and 2016 elections, and that should be our number one concern. When we have all three, the house, the senate and the POTUS, we can then start to turn around Obammy's Socialist executive orders and laws. Without all three, we could be stuck with all of what Obammy and his minions have forced on us as of that point. The Repub candidate must show that he/she is willing and promise to recend that crap though to have a chance. By then the majority of Americans will have had a belly full of this Socialist agenda and be ready for that. I'm really afraid that if we lose in 2016, it will then be too late to turn this around after that and we will be stuck with what we now have to harness our children and our granchildrens' necks with forever.

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

Ann Coulter: Still Racist
Rightwing columnist Ann Coulter continued vilifying immigrants as criminals Wednesday in a column poking fun at people with “comically foreign” names.

The column attacks the Obama administration for allowing the federal government to hire health care “navigators” without requiring them to pass a criminal background check. The navigators are charged with taking down applicants’ personal information when they apply for health care through the exchanges established by the Affordable Care Act.

Riffing on the theme of health care and criminality, Coulter presents a list culled from Justice Department press releases of people recently convicted of health care fraud.

Do you notice anything that stands out about the list of convicts? Would any of their names have sounded strange to Ben Franklin? Of 22 people convicted of defrauding American taxpayers by fraudulently billing Medicare or Medicaid, at least 17 have almost comically foreign names.

It is generally not clear from the list of names or the Justice Department press releases whether the people are foreign or American. Spanish surnames have existed in what is today the United States for nearly a century longer than English ones.

Nevertheless, Coulter points the finger at U.S. immigration policies.

None of the scammers should be foreigners! We can’t do anything about our native-born crooks, but why are we importing them?
Enormous, unwieldy corrupt government programs run by arrogant bureaucrats would be bad enough in 1950. But after decades of our Third World-only immigration policies, one can't help noticing that Medicare and Medicaid are beckoning Disneylands for foreign-born thieves.

The problem isn't their complexion, it's their culture. In America, we think only dumb people become criminals. That's not true in the Third World!


Crime rates are lower among immigrants than the native born, according to a study cited by Pew last month. Crime rates rise among second-generation immigrants to levels comparable to the native born, the study says.

Coulter has continually raised alarms about the possibility of reform including a pathway to citizenship, saying it would create a primarily Latino underclass of welfare recipients that deplete government resources.

In fact, Latinos use less than their fair share of government benefits. A study released last year by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities noted that non-Hispanic whites accounted for 64 percent of the population in 2010 and received 69 percent of entitlement benefits. Latinos, on the other hand, made up 16 percent of the population but received 12 percent of the benefits.

 

[packerbacker]

please separate earned, paid into by recipient, "entitlement" percentages and basic welfare, give-me-a-bunch-of-stuff-for-free "entitlement" percentages.

 

[Dave44]

Thank you for posting this,, I can tell this came form an extremist site trying to bend perceptions. But tell us how an illegal immigrant is obeying the law?

And I don't know if you know it or not.. But our structure of laws is not accepted practice in all of the worlds countries?

 

[Dave44]

Can I ask you your point about the last 2 posts pip? Is there some kind of importance here?

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Can I ask you your point about the last 2 posts pip? Is there some kind of importance here?

Dave, I do believe he was replying to packerbacker, and trying to be helpful with bandwidth(?) stuffs by expanding the link thingys.

Do you have short term memory loss?
We were just discussing the expansion of link thingys on the other thread!?

pip, I guess ya just can't please some, no matter what you do!

 

[Dave44]

Dave, I do believe he was replying to packerbacker, and trying to be helpful with bandwidth(?) stuffs by expanding the link thingys.

Do you have short term memory loss?
We were just discussing the expansion of link thingys on the other thread!?

pip, I guess ya just can't please some, no matter what you do!

Yeah,, I see Packer posted while I was typing,, missed his post. But, since packer asked the question I guess I will wait for pip to explain his graphs and stats. I don't see his breakout of people who paid in to the program first and then the amount that just receive. Maybe because the question was concise and the reply is shotgun?

 

[packerbacker]

Now, above you said, in 2010, whites received 69% of entitlement benefits. I'm white and I get some SSI so I'm getting some entitlement benefits. I served the military for almost 4 years and I worked AND CONTRIBUTED via taxes and other "witholdings" for a total of 49 years. THAT'S entitlements earned. I read one stat that put blacks at 12.33% of the population in 2010. According to your foodstamp stats that means 12.33% of a population is getting 39.8% of the foodstamps. Then my stats showed that 15.08% of the population was Hispanic (whatever that means) and your stats show they use 15.7% of the foodstamps. Pretty even. Then, with whites, my stats showed them being 65.87% of the population and yet you show them using only 38.8% of the foodstamps. Pretty uneven. Yes, even as a guy on the right, I agree racism causes some of this disparity but not to this extent. I personally feel there should be a straight-forward means of becoming a US citizen but a blanket amnesty is not the way. If they are contributing to our society they should have clear path to citizenship as well as those who are not contributing should have a clear path out of here.