Brass Thingey?

[akl439]

Lovely small solid brass (heavy) padlock? It has six barrels which revolve, each has seven letters of the alphabet on, all quite random. It measures 3.5cm x 3.5cm. If it is a brass padlock, what would it have been used on and why letters not numbers? I'm intrigued and would value any information someone could give. There must be so many possible combinations to opening this it would take years!

 

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[AU24K]

Sorry, not gulchy

OK, try these..
''GELOSY''
''TETCHY''
''TUFOLI''
''ZUFOLI''
and my favorite, ''LETUSE'' like in let use.
These are real words believe it or not!
Scott

 

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[La Beep]

I may be off but 7^6 = 117649 so there's 117649 possible combinations! It been a while since I did Permutations/Combinations, so my brain may be broken.

 

[Tricia]

Betcha the second letter is "E" or "U".

 

[Gunny71]

That is one cool lock, good luck with it. Any idea as to its age?

 

[lostcauses]

I take it the original post has the photo of the lock in question?

This type of lock can be opened by feel. Were is slides and or pulls apart will have a bit of slack in it. On plays with the tumblers untill that slack increase. Not the tumbler you moved while doing so. One keeps doing such until the slack keep increasing opens the lock.

LOL it is a game of time, and I doubt most folks would do it. One of them things to leave around were you can play with it.

 

[AU24K]

As a locksmith, I would be interested in purchasing it. If you are interested in selling, send me a PM.
Scott

 

[intimer]

figuring the letters wasn't any fun.

lostcauses method makes good sense.

 

[Tricia]

LUGOSI. It's a lock given to members of the Bela Lugosi fan club.

Kidding. Best word I could come up with.

If you do figure out how to open it with the trial and error tumbler feel method...let us know what was spelled out.

Good luck.

 

[intimer]

bela lugosi -- you had me going there for a minute.

 

[cw0909]

Here we go - here are the letters, your time starts now....


Z E Z D Z E
L U L A L I
H C H B H Y
G V G N Y V
T K J O S K
X R T U X R
F P F C F P

akl439
hi im an armchair treasure hunter, as well as an MDer, and this looks like some kind of cipher,
break the code, and it will give you keyword, to open lock
though ive never seen a coded lock b4, which is the coolest thing ive ever seen, by the way
anyway im going to take the coded letters, and a pic of lock, over to tweleve.org, an armchair
treasure forum, and see if the code, to open the lock, can be broken, there are some smart folks
there, they know how to break codes

 

[Montana Jim]

I'm thinking that if these were mass produced there was a preset combination... no "code" to speak of.

I also think it may have been somewhat a novelty to have letters instead of numbers on the drum - used as a selling technique.

 

[Tricia]

I'm thinking that if these were mass produced there was a preset combination... no "code" to speak of.

I also think it may have been somewhat a novelty to have letters instead of numbers on the drum - used as a selling technique.

Right, couldn't figure out a word that was a product or company either. Lugosi was it except for various gibberish words.

 

[cw0909]

there is a co. that has a word lock, its different it can be reset,
and akl439, does not look like it can be reset
http://www.wordlock.com/
http://wordlock.com/padlocks/

i think this is a novelty item, that uses code,
like a brain teaser type of thing, even though mass produced,
with a 6 letter combo, and in this case 15 letters,
not repeated, and from the 26 letter alpha, and 42 place holders
thats a lot of combos,that could be used
im sure the co. provided the word, to open the lock,
in case you couldnt figure out the code, i think its just a fun
novelty item, that akl439, wants to open

Z E Z D Z E
3 Zs, 2 Es, 1D, this line could have been 4Zs, and 2 non repeateing letters
or 2Zs and 3Ds, and 1E
sorry i re sized akl439 pic and forgot to attach

 

[intimer]

what if it read right to left --- backwards?

 

[pegleglooker]

What if it wasn't even in English ? LOL

PLL

 

[cw0909]

after more research, ive found this lock, is prob not a novelty item
so i think maybe? IM WRONG
the lock that akl439, has is prob a very old lock

i have not found away to open it yet, still working on that

proof of my mistake
http://www.aschkenes.com/Letter Combination Locks 1.htm

the only thing i found out about it is/ .....and underlined in RED/ trick boxes? see jpg
trick boxes makes me wonder if their is a code though, to find the keyword
see jpg, if u cant read info on pg
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/345732/lock/4264/Development-of-modern-types#ref=ref222513

 

[SuperSlug]

Found a pic of a similar one that is open

I, like lostcauses, have found the feel method very useful when opening old combination locks of this type. Should be possible to do if the mechanism is like the one pictured.

 

[pegleglooker]

http://www.aschkenes.com/Letter Combination Locks 1.htm
on this page looks like 2nd row and 2nd lock from the left is the lock....

PLL








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[pegleglooker]

Found a pic of a similar one that is open

I, like lostcauses, have found the feel method very useful when opening old combination locks of this type. Should be possible to do if the mechanism is like the one pictured.

What was the opening combination

PLL

 

[Mental Granny]

I have the newer version lots of plastic on tumblers but, it is with letters not #'s and to set it there are plunger you push at same time on the ends then set the letter combo yo want , then anytime you want to open it dial those letters. I do like your brass one better!