box plate or what

[Capt.E]

I dug this up in kershaw south carolina in a grassy area by the railroad tracks, can anyone tell me anything about it. obviously it is a plate of somekind. new or old?

 

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[jrwill56]

belt buckle

 

[BuckleBoy]

Box plate.


Attachment loops, not puppy paws or the like--so it is a box plate.




British Plate?    Looks more like turn-of-the-century to me. The only other thing I could think of was "Howe Military School"--but I don't believe they issued buckles or plates.




-Buckles

 

[Goldiver]

It Is definately a cartridge box plate. I dont recognize the lettering though. Does the lead filled back have any makers marks on it?

Steve

 

[Montana Jim]

It's a fake or real box plate.  :P

I guess I'll ask all the questions...

Where did you get it? 
Was is dug?
What location was it found in?
What state?
Or - what Country?
Is the lead oxidized on the back?


I don't think British Will...

 

[Montana Jim]

1812 Uniform

Britians Royal Marines

http://home.comcast.net/~1812RoyalMarines/uniform.htm

Cartridge Boxes – We started using boxes that were made in England for the HMS and are probably an early war pattern (1802?). (The HMS portrays RM from the Trafalgar Period.) For our period, especially for landing parties, we should have a bigger box and we will be using the standard 60 round box. This can be purchased from Past Reflections in Ontario for $80 (CAN) and contains the correct tin inserts. The RM, along with the Guards, were the only units to have a cartridge box plate. I found a source in England for these plates and have purchased some which are now available from the unit.

Crossbelts/Plates - The cross belt plate is, of course, unique to the Marines. The design that we will be using is an oval badge with a raised fouled anchor. Discriminating General also has an oval plate with an engraved fouled anchor topped by a crown. This would be more correct for a Royal naval impression but acceptable. The HMS uses a rectangular plate with engraving.


I'm not sure this proves anything - but the text is interesting.

 

[BuckleBoy]

It's a fake or real box plate. :P

I guess I'll ask all the questions...

Where did you get it?
Was is dug?
What location was it found in?
What state?
Or - what Country?
Is the lead oxidized on the back?

In the ground.
Yes.
Near Kershaw in a grassy area by a railroad track.
South Carolina.
8)

I don't think British Will...

 

[Montana Jim]

Thanks Will - I'm retarded...

 

[deepskyal]

I always thought HMS was the abbreviated form of "Her Majesty's Ship" (at least in Crossword puzzles,lol)

That might fit the British Marines....

Al

 

[CRUSADER]

I always thought HMS was the abbreviated form of "Her Majesty's Ship" (at least in Crossword puzzles,lol)

That might fit the British Marines....

Al

You are indeed right. If thats what its meant to stand for, because if it were ship related it would be followed by the ships name. HMS 'something'

 

[BuckleBoy]

Thanks Will - I'm retarded...

Me too sometimes Jim.

 

[Capt.E]

I would have to say that it stands for HER MAJESTIES SERVICE. do you agree or not.

 

[Capt.E]

I dug this up in kershaw south carolina in a grassy area by the railroad tracks, can anyone tell me anything about it. obviously it is a plate of somekind. new or old?

nobody knows i guess

 

[BuckleBoy]

I would have to say that it stands for HER MAJESTIES SERVICE. do you agree or not.

I'm stumped. But that's my best guess too. I have no clue on age, but I feel certain that it's a good find.


Maybe you could list this on another forum--if there is one that exists for british or canadian relics...Maybe Tnet member Romeo has seen something like this before.




Best Wishes,



Buckles

 

[CRUSADER]

I would have to say that it stands for HER MAJESTIES SERVICE. do you agree or not.

I'm stumped. But that's my best guess too. I have no clue on age, but I feel certain that it's a good find.


Maybe you could list this on another forum--if there is one that exists for british or canadian relics...Maybe Tnet member Romeo has seen something like this before.




Best Wishes,



Buckles

Only in James Bond. Its Her or His (depending on Monarch) Majesties Ship.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Only in James Bond. Its Her or His (depending on Monarch) Majesties Ship.

Was it only warships that bore this designation, or did other ships bear it too?

 

[CRUSADER]

Only in James Bond. Its Her or His (depending on Monarch) Majesties Ship.

Was it only warships that bore this designation, or did other ships bear it too?

Yes only warships had HMS. However I'm not convinced it does mean this, as its meaningless without a ships name after it.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Only in James Bond. Its Her or His (depending on Monarch) Majesties Ship.

Was it only warships that bore this designation, or did other ships bear it too?

Yes only warships had HMS. However I'm not convinced it does mean this, as its meaningless without a ships name after it.

Well, unless there was some sort of record of ships captains having a belt issued to them during a certain time period, we're probably at the end of the line for trying to ID this relic...

 

[cwdigger]

The only "HMS" I know of is the HMS flagship of 1778 I will see what I can find on this plate, leaning more toward a reproduction.

Cw

 

[cwdigger]

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