both sides of point -fluted? any help would be great

[green horn]

can anyone help date or identify thanks

 

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[PaJim]

Hmmm.... I don't see signs of flaking. Is this just a seriously suggestive rock?

 

[Edmundruffin]

Form...yes Function....no Geofact

 

[green horn]

I am new to detecting an d know nothing about arrowheads except what I learned this week that has me very interested I cant stop thinking that being found on the creek shore perhaps any flaking would have been washed away tumbling in sand and water I still have high hopes but I understand and sincerely respect all of your opinions

 

[gordonquixote]

Just a rock, not a point.

 

[green horn]

I was hoping for someone to say it was a paleo point but I learned a little and keep looking thanks

 

[Get-the-point]

Show the thickness and looking point down. It appears to be exhausted slate or black argillite. The base shows a Debert style deep concave. I am not saying this is a artifact yet. but i've found argillite with flaking and without flaking. Both slate and argillite could be ground to form. A paleo piece made of argillite could lose signs in the right conditions of any flaking...........GTP

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Green Horn, I looked really closely at your piece to see if maybe you were right and it had just been polished smooth by water or sand, but I see no signs of that stone ever being altered by man. It looks to me to be a pieces of a Limonite nodule that has eroded to that shape. I'd be willing to bet that if broke it open it would a yellowish or brownish colored soft interior. You are seeing the shape so it won't be long and you will find a true Point.

 

[green horn]

again I appreciate all of your opinions I will post another pic get to the point

 

[green horn]

get the point

 

[Charl]

Show the thickness and looking point down. It appears to be exhausted slate or black argillite. The base shows a Debert style deep concave. I am not saying this is a artifact yet. but i've found argillite with flaking and without flaking. Both slate and argillite could be ground to form. A paleo piece made of argillite could lose signs in the right conditions of any flaking...........GTP

That base had me thinking maybe it was argillite, and the outermost layer had exfoliated off. I even sent photos to a friend who is familiar with the type of argillite found in Pa and NJ. He too went with geofact, but what you are saying were the very thoughts going through my head. I told my friend it's like the "base" is highly suggestive, and then as you move up from the base, it just loses it altogether, lol.

I think if just the very "base" were found, and only a tiny bit above the base as well, one could easily think one had found an extremely water worn Paleo base. It's a headscratcher in that respect. But the only way I could salvage it as an artifact is if argillite not only wears very poorly in water(which it does and it weathers very poorly period), but perhaps it also exfoliates layers as well. But I am not saying that is what happened here. I just know what GTP is saying here......

 

[green horn]

i took it to the farmers market met a guy sells indian artifacts/modern gallery he thought it was argillite and said it was paleo but i will send more pics today thanks

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

People selling artifacts at farmers markets and flea markets know next to nothing about artifacts. I have seen so many fake artifacts and geofacts being sold at flea markets as artifacts....

What you have is a geofact, not artifact...

 

[oxbowbarefoot]

Wow, nature imitates art.

 

[green horn]

thanks for the interest

 

[rock]

Nice piece of limestone from your creek. I call them dangits cause when you see them they look like something good till they dry out and then you can see they arent nothing but skipping stones for throwing.

 

[green horn]

rough crowd around here dream crushers ha ha

 

[PaDirtDigger]

If people want to actually learn and collect true artifacts, then sometimes dreams do get crushed. I had many squashings in my life and im sure i will have more too... Regardless though, i still keep that piece of limestone, because holy crap, hpw much closer can you get to finding a paleo point than that... Still very cool piece!!! Conversation piece...


Hope youre keeping it on the shelf!

 

[green horn]

yes sir I agree its a keeper guess I have to beg for my job back

 

[Get-the-point]

I'm sorry but that is a arrowhead. All the naysayers are wrong on this. I stand firm on this. Knowing the material here and pulling close ups of the pictures posted this is exhausted argillite. Highly smoothed most likely from water. The deposits on it are natural..........Def. no geofact.......