Blowing The Cast Iron Lids Off Of Beale

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If one remembers the that US agreed to pay off the grievous claims of American citizens against Spain, set aside 5 million dollars for that payout.
A few legitimate claims were paid from this fund, but guess who received the lion's share of the payouts?
Those American "patriots" who helped bring about the negotiations of the Adams-Onis Treaty.
Major James Beverly Risqué was one of these "patriots" in Florida with Andrew Jackson, and it is known that Risqué paid close attention to the signing and ratification of Adams-Onis for he wanted an appointment in the newly acquired Florida Territory.
Was Risqué among these "patriot" recipients of the Treaty payouts?

Now you're entertaining the right area. There is a lot more, sooooo much more. Jackson was responsible for securing "the frontier" as it was called, the opinions of Marshall helped pave the way for many of the strategies that were undertaken. Henry Clay, Jackson, Marshall, were all proponents of what would later be coined, Manifest Destiny, but this was actually in existence long before it was ever coined as such. The claims of Laffite regarding the return of his possessions and reimbursement for his sacrifices during the battle of New Orleans continued to hang in the balance in the courts, his pardon being discretionary and conditional and drawing him "into the employ and service of the United States." At one time he possessed the most powerful naval military resource and system of supply in the United States, which is why Great Britain held concern of him and tried to gain his alliance. Now if all of this sounds a bit like a Hollywood movie to you, I agree, but I also assure that it was all very real, that letter from poindexter just being the tip of the iceberg. And those memoirs, call them whatever you will, but the information offered in them is what has lead me to some of what I have now.

 

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Those two deposits represent, "the spoils of war", just as that chronological order maintains.

 

[ECS]

Still, none of this can be DIRECTLY connected to the 1885 Beale Papers or to copyright agent James Beverly Ward unless one employs his grandfather, James Beverly Risqué "connexion" to Andrew Jackson.

 

[Benjamin Gates]

Or . . . are the "deposits" to shore up the lack of "metallic currency" caused by the Panic of 1819?

 

[ECS]

...not if it is hidden in a vault underground in Bedford county!

 

[Benjamin Gates]

...not if it is hidden in a vault underground in Bedford county!

Investment insurance...against paper bank notes?

 

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Still, none of this can be DIRECTLY connected to the 1885 Beale Papers or to copyright agent James Beverly Ward unless one employs his grandfather, James Beverly Risqué "connexion" to Andrew Jackson.

Be patient. Like I said, there's soooo much more.

 

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The actual wealth, we need to consider this. Doing the math in "real world" calculations during the period we learn that the total of the the two alleged deposits was right around $980'000, give or take a few thousand. If we round this off and divide $900'000 by 30 alleged parties we arrive at $30'000 each, money that is being held in trust until which time it is to be paid out. So in terms of a "corporation" think of this money as being a return on investment, or a bonus earned based on corporate performance.

 

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This next question should really get you to consider something not previously considered.......in 1885, how many people are looking for this money? The answer is just one, this being the unknown author. Why not thirty, or thirty families, if this wealth was never paid out? Why is there just one person still looking, this person not even learning about until 1862? Who was the main character in the publication? Now think on this and perhaps something profound might come to you. Consider all the aspects of the publication, its details. Consider what Jean has been saying about Thomas Beale's death, even though he is on the wrong track.

 

[ECS]

Money that is gold, silver, and jewels?
...and kept secret until 1884 when an "unknown author" contacts James Beverly Ward to copyright and publish a paper to blow the cover off this long held secret?
Did this "unknown author" front money for publishing costs or compensate Ward in any way, or Ward, whose finances were not that strong in 1884. say, "OK, Mr unknown author, I'll spend what little cash reserves I possess and publish this job pamphlet for you".

 

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Why fight over an estate that is basically riddled in debt?

 

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The secret was confined to immediate family and one trusted friend.

 

[ECS]

The secret was confined to immediate family and one trusted friend.

Read how Morriss selected this "unknown author" to tell the Beale story during the 2nd year of the Confederate War, then how this "unknown author" selected James Beverly Ward (who had no knowledge of this portion of Morriss's life) to be his agent and publisher, and go back and read Thomas J Beale's reasons to choose Morriss as his confidant to this secret.
Then think about the "immediate family and one trusted friend" and how it relates to how Morriss, "unknown author", and Ward were chosen to fulfill similar, but different aspects of this treasure tale that led up to its publication in 1885.
*NOTE: read it as a wary reader, then consider the various alternative theories that have been proposed recently that claimed to be the story behind the story, then try to connect these theories to Beale, Morriss, "unknown author", and Ward chain, and one soon realizes, there is no real "connexion".

 

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Read how Morriss selected this "unknown author" to tell the Beale story during the 2nd year of the Confederate War, then how this "unknown author" selected James Beverly Ward (who had no knowledge of this portion of Morriss's life) to be his agent and publisher, and go back and read Thomas J Beale's reasons to choose Morriss as his confidant to this secret.
Then think about the "immediate family and one trusted friend" and how it relates to how Morriss, "unknown author", and Ward were chosen to fulfill similar, but different aspects of this treasure tale that led up to its publication in 1885.
*NOTE: read it as a wary reader, then consider the various alternative theories that have been proposed recently that claimed to be the story behind the story, then try to connect these theories to Beale, Morriss, "unknown author", and Ward chain, and one soon realizes, there is no real "connexion".

You keep holding that notion, but also keep snooping as there is more to be found, just with your recent discovery about those alleged treaty payments being made to Risque. Maybe you'll find some of your proposed answers out there?

 

[ECS]

You do have a knack of avoiding that which doesn't fit with your perceptions with the now obvious retort.

 

[bigscoop]

"Avoiding"...............now that's a good one. And this from the membership section that has already told me they're not interested and don't want to hear it, immediately set out to condemn and shoot down anything I post on the subject without any knowledge of what or why. Well, just as with Risque you will find more, a very short statement of fact without boring you guys with the details, just as you guys request.

 

[ECS]

Well just as with Risqué, you see find many "connexions" to his extended family in the Beale narrative text.

 

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An exert from “John Adams, American Visionary, by Frank Kaplin” that pretty much sums up the game that was being played out during the Adams Onis Treaty;


“Adams passed along Jackson's views to the President. Aware that there would be some dissent, Monroe believed, as did Jackson, that the treaty provided ample compensation for the concession of Texas. Florida would be ceded to the United States. Any Florida land grants made by Spain after January 24, 1819, the date on which Onis had first proposed ceding Florida, would be invalid. All monetary claims by the American citizens that had accrued since 1795 would be paid by the United States, about $5 million, which would actually be, in effect, the cash cost of Florida. The western boundary of the United States would follow the Sabine River and then the Red Rover to Arkansas; it would continue in a jagged line to the forty-first parallel, then directly westward to the Pacific Ocean on a line bordering the southern boundary of the Oregon territory. With this the United states would finally be a presence in the Pacific rim. Texas would be an issue for another date.”


In the above exert there is quite a bit that is directly relevant to the Beale narration that in 1885 Ward was selected to represent.

You've recently discovered the Risque info.
I have already offered you that exact chronological order of dates.
Jackson knew Beale and the Laffites, Beale knew Jackson and the Laffites. The Laffites were in the employ of Jackson and the United States, this including Galveston Island.
Laffite was part of a fact finding excursion up the Sabine, Red, and Arkansas Rivers.
Beale is the main character in the 1885 narration.
The Laffites were merciless on Spanish commerce in the Gulf, had a well established smuggling operation from Galveston Island. Beale knew the Laffites, Jackson knew the Laffites.
The wealth was said to have come from west to east, Beale was allegedly in charge of the transporting of this wealth.
Monroe and Adams had direct involvement with many of the events at Galveston Island, eventually sending George Graham, "banker", to that place as soon as the treaty had been realized. Shortly afterwards the deposits start coming.
In 1885 a narration is published concerning a Thomas Beale and enormous wealth that came from the west, Jackson referenced in this same narration, along with others.
The current administration is constantly seeking the opinion of Jackson in regards to the west during the Adams Onis Treaty negotiations.

So from all of this you have more then enough avenues to chase, should you so choose to actually do it.

 

[ECS]

What was the source of this enormous wealth that originated in the west?
It is obvious that it was NOT the Adams-Onis Treaty payouts.

 

[bigscoop]

What was the source of this enormous wealth that originated in the west?
It is obvious that it was NOT the Adams-Onis Treaty payouts.

I wish I could say the same with as much absolute certainty, but until/if I can learn more of the details about the trust involved and how it was actually funded and designed I can't do that. Could very easily be that the spoils of war funded the trust.....I just can't determine any of this quite yet?