~$~BLACK PENNYS 2001D~$~ (pictures)

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I've posted before about the 2 black pennies that i have, thought they might of been steel pennies from the 40's but i finally found them and they are 2001's (D), they are slightly larger than a regular penny, and dark grey in color,if you turn them over the edge is raised higher on the back side, and they both have a slight 'bow' to them, as you can see, the detail on them is more intense than a regular penny, definately not a copper penny! But the fact that they are larger brings another question,also they are not as heavy as a 'regular' penny, what could they be made of and why?... Here are a few pictures.
thanks for taking the time!
Trish
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
Hes asking $260 for a 1983 unplated zinc cent, but there are no bids.

Keep in mind that yours are larger and warped, which would make me think that they were heated. :(

yeah im sure they probably are heated. Still keepers.
I thought that link would be interesting to someone else.
I did notice there were no bids.
 

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I have a sneaky suspicion that the pennies will turn out to be normal. Apparently, there are several procedures for turning pennies black.

Try doing a Google search. If you heat a penny then cool it quickly, it will turn black.
Another way is to subject it to sulphur. Here's one link: http://www.finishing.com/258/66.shtml

If it was mine, I'd probably scratch it to see if a copper color showed under the black.

Just a guess on my part. ???
 

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1988 and down are all 90% copper, All those above 1982 are 92% Zinc .8% tin copper as they lay in the ground the copper wears away leaving only the zinc which is very light. That is what you have I can give more details but you can take that to the bank.
 

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So what makes them larger than a normal penny and bowed in the center? Heat?
 

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doug60 said:
1988 and down are all 90% copper, All those above 1982 are 92% Zinc .8% tin copper
I think you meant to say 1982, not 1988. :)
 

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"So what makes them larger than a normal penny and bowed in the center? Heat?"

Yes the heat cases a slight expansion because of the the zinc state going to liquid from solid. This will cause an expansion and bowing during both the heating and cooling.
 

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Penny copper composition, from http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/fun_facts/index.cfm?flash=yes&action=fun_facts2

* The composition was pure copper from 1793 to 1837.
* From 1837 to 1857, the cent was made of bronze (95 percent copper, and five percent tin and zinc).
* From 1857, the cent was 88 percent copper and 12 percent nickel, giving the coin a whitish appearance.
* The cent was again bronze (95 percent copper, and five percent tin and zinc) from 1864 to 1962.
(Note: In 1943, the coin's composition was changed to zinc-coated steel. This change was only for the year 1943 and was due to the critical use of copper for the war effort. However, a limited number of copper pennies were minted that year. You can read more about the rare, collectible 1943 copper penny in "What's So Special about the 1943 Copper Penny.")
* In 1962, the cent's tin content, which was quite small, was removed. That made the metal composition of the cent 95 percent copper and 5 percent zinc.
* The alloy remained 95 percent copper and 5 percent zinc until 1982, when the composition was changed to 97.5 percent zinc and 2.5 percent copper (copper-plated zinc). Cents of both compositions appeared in that year.
 

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