Beware of Chinese counterfeit dollars

[tnt-hunter]

With the recent posting of what looks like Chinese counterfeit coins I remembered I had some coins stashed away the I got in China. My wife and I took a trip to China back in 2014. I bought some US silver dollars while there. The first batch I saw looked good and I was able to get them for what I thought was a good price. I had an old flip phone and no internet connection so I couldn’t check them until we got back to the river boat we were on and the WiFi connection on my iPad. After I looked them up I knew they were counterfeit. I did buy a couple more at a very reduced price just for the variety and the souvenir value.

As we toured around I noticed they were everywhere. So I can only guess how many people got taken in and how many of these people tried to sell once they got home. So be careful what you buy, you might be getting a Chinese counterfeit instead of the real deal.

I’m no expert and people with more knowledge of silver dollars will spot more problems with the coins, but here they are with the things I can see that makes them counterfeit.

These dollars all have In God We Trust and are marked CC for the Carson City mint. In God We Trust did not appear on coins until 1864 when they put it on the 2 cent piece. Also the Carson City mint didn’t operate until 1870 and all these are dated well before that.

The trade dollar is the right year, but on the real one there is a ribbon with LIBERTY on it being held in lady liberty’s hand. It is missing on this one.

The Morgan dollars look good to me. I’m sure there are some irregularities, but I haven’t spotted them. One of them is definitely a counterfeit because the plating has split in several places and the under metal is showing through.

Most of the coins have a stain on them that makes the coins look dirty like they are old. To me the staining does not look right for old silver coins. Also it does not come off using the normal methods of cleaning silver coins, another indicator that these are counterfeit. Beware of coins for sale that could be Chinese counterfeits. Don’t be fooled like I was. It didn’t cost me too much and now I know a lot more than I did then.

Thanks for looking, stay safe, good luck and keep swingin.

 

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[cudamark]

I always remember this woman that panhandling on Bloor St west. The Rodeo Drive of shopping in Toronto (mid 1980s).
She wasn't shy, $2 or $5 requests.

She worked the street, folks complied, amazing 👏
I decided to see what my request would be.

She asked for $2

I engaged and asked why?
She asked again-"Give me $2"

I said I will give you money for all the gold on your fingers. We'll weigh it, and I'll give you money.
Yes the blue air, and finger wagging was priceless.

To facilitate the habits of most that bum money today is just feeding the addiction.

Sitting there, smart phone, smoking brand name smokes, drinking $4-6 dollar drinks.
Looking quite fit, and working the system.

The tune line plays in the mind.
"Walk on bye"

Agreed. A few years back when we actually had news reporters, there was an expose' of what some of these pan handlers were making, and if they were truly needy. Some were, but, many were also quite well off, with a house, car, living in a nice neighborhood, etc. Seems some found it much easier to make money that way than to get an actual job. They were just playing poor and downtrodden and were scamming everyone.

 

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[pepperj]

Agreed. A few years back when we actually had news reporters, there was an expose' of what some of these pan handlers were making, and if they were truly needy. Some were, but, many were also quite well off, with a house, car, living in a nice neighborhood, etc. Seems some found it much easier to make money that way than to get an actual job. They were just playing poor and downtrodden and were scamming everyone.

I had scrap customers that could make $35-50 an hour doing the I ran of gas.
They'd score lots taking a woman and kid, the cash flowed.

 

[unclemac]

you do not sound like you have much personal experience with addiction. It may start as a choice but it soon becomes something else. Addicts are no longer getting "high", they are surviving, and sick as hell. What started out as one thing quickly becomes something they need just to live. Opiate addiction is the most monstrous thing I have ever seen, alcoholism is childs play in comparison. And like I said, I don't judge the need, mothers, hitchhikers, folks in wheelchairs, It doesn't matter. I travel in a very urban area, there is a diverse need.

 

[unclemac]

Agreed. A few years back when we actually had news reporters, there was an expose' of what some of these pan handlers were making, and if they were truly needy. Some were, but, many were also quite well off, with a house, car, living in a nice neighborhood, etc. Seems some found it much easier to make money that way than to get an actual job. They were just playing poor and downtrodden and were scamming everyone.

of course there are folk that do that, but there are others that don't. Just like there are folk that cheat our asses off in business or government. Not my place to judge.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

You guys could be right. Maybe the guy asking for money is an addict or a drunk, but maybe he hasn't eaten in three days. I won't take that chance and will always give them at least a couple of bucks. Just my nature, I guess. I can be one nasty human being (as some of you know), but I do have some good traits...

 

[pepperj]

you do not sound like you have much personal experience with addiction. It may start as a choice but it soon becomes something else. Addicts are no longer getting "high", they are surviving, and sick as hell. What started out as one thing quickly becomes something they need just to live. Opiate addiction is the most monstrous thing I have ever seen, alcoholism is childs play in comparison. And like I said, I don't judge the need, mothers, hitchhikers, folks in wheelchairs, It doesn't matter. I travel in a very urban area, there is a diverse need.

You posted after my post so I guess directed at me, as I don't have personal experience with addiction?

My 40th anniversary for rum is July 4th
For drugs it's May 24th and it will be my 38th

I walked in the shoes of the street person.
Seen and lived many horror stories as they all do.

I actually wear my addictions as a badge of honor. Reasons being I crawled out, got clean. I fixed what was broken AFTER I figured out what was broken.

I've read every post in this thread, and some actually have it right.
Some want the pat, as they seem to have that need to fulfill it seems.