belt plate,

[rocky raccoon]

well after my sermon on here, i did the research for 4 hours and i cannot find anything that looks like this.....it appears to have an anchor down the center and some strange letters or symbols running thru the middle...anybody ever seen this? i have included a pic of the back it looks to have lil hooks to attach it

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

any one seen this design?

No lol but you stated above "There are many dated US Navy articles of equipment and dinnerware using the stylized intials"

Please post away so we can try and solve this. Thanks.

 

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[rocky raccoon]

give a minute,be right back

 

[rocky raccoon]

this is it ,alot of cool stuff,,,antiques navigator .com Antique Naval China and Dinnerware

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The picture you found is a good match IMO. Its the closect match so far. I just cant imagine the official USN using a non fouled anchor. I will try to find it in your link.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Copy and paste the url at the top of the page. It starts with http://www

 

[rocky raccoon]

http://www.thepirateslair.com/6-us-navy-candlesticks.html

 

[GpSnoopy]

I read all I could find on the stylized USN logo (and there are several varieties), and it appears to have been used only by companies contracted to supplying tableware, glassware, flatware, candlesticks, lamps, and other "convenience" items for the Navy. I did not find any reference to it being used as an official logo by the Navy on their own issued items (buttons, belts, pins, badges). The date range of the stylized logo does seem to be from 1850's to late 1890's-early 1900's. Doesn't help narrow down where your item fits into all this......

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

http://www.thepirateslair.com/6-us-navy-candlesticks.html

OK thanks. Ill study it.

 

[rocky raccoon]

thanks for the help

 

[rocky raccoon]

so i am guessing this came from dinnerware?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Heres a good link maybe. http://www.thepirateslair.com/us-navy-china-history.html

but they are all fouled anchors.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

http://www.thepirateslair.com/6-us-navy-candlesticks.html

It says 1860's-1890's but I would like to read more about this stylized logo if anybody has any more links.
Thats your logo.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Heres the Pair of Gorham Silverplate U.S.N. United States Navy electric Lamps http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...QD1OvA0S3fsOax3q7Iqmg%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

so i am guessing this came from dinnerware?

...or tableware, glassware, flatware, candlesticks, lamps, and other "convenience" items for the Navy.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Recovered at Pearl Harbor. http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=76485

 

[GpSnoopy]

Looking at the logo on the candlesticks, both the one below as well as the one BCH linked, it appears that it could possibly be a separate medallion inserted afterwards. Would make sense if they make them for other companies and just used different medallions. Rocky's plate may be a dislodged medallion from a similar type item??

 

[rocky raccoon]

the only 2 items that show this design are candlsticks

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

the only 2 items that show this design are candlsticks

I have a lot of distractions lately and I may not be thinking clearly but dont you dont think the pic I posted is a closer match?

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[rocky raccoon]

yes , I am sure you hit it on the head ..I am in the process of tracking down mfrs of this design....I will keep you posted....and thank you for all your time and info...you are the go to guy for obscure info