Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Various Minelabs(5000, 2100, X-Terra 705, Equinox 800, Gold Monster), Falcon MD20, Tesoro Sand Shark, Gold Bug Pro, Makro Gold Racer.
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Prospecting
Do you love to chase the gold? Please join me--lots of gold hunting tips, stories of finds (successful and not), and prospecting poetry.

Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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Wow Lanny! Thanks for being so generous with your experiences with respect to finding certain colors on or near rocks, and how to read the lay of the land....you are a wealth of 411....almost encyclopedic! You can "talk the talk" and more importantly, you "walk the walk"! I really appreciate the lessons you taught me thus far, and it's really great that you share a little of your knowledge, wisdom and experience here....I appreciate it....SushiDog
 

No problem Sushi--Just as a teaser, here's a nice nugget a mining friend of mine that nugget shoots the same area found with the Goldbug. It was in an area of quite mild bedrock, part of an upper bench deposit, and it was lodged down in a crack that had snapped shut eons ago. The crack was barely visible, but at some time in the distant past, when large boulders were rolling across it, the crack obviously widened--most-likely due to the tremendous forces of the pounding boulders and hydraulic pressures of the water, and the nugget dropped in. At some later time, the crack snapped shut and kept the nugget locked up nice and safe until my friend sniffed it out with the Bug. Beautiful find.

All the best,

Lanny

 

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Lanny....how long have you been in this hobby? How many years of experience? How long did it take your friend to chisel out that beautiful nugget?....SushiDog
 

Been at it on and off for decades--hardcore and spending the money for the right equipment for the last ten years. It took my friend the better part of an afternoon as he went past it the first time (didn't have a pinpointer with him).

All the best,

Lanny
 

Lanny....let me bloviate here for a moment....I live in Sacramento, California and only like an hours drive from the heart of Gold Country....what really chaps my butt is so much of the land is privately owned, and if you go to the "known" area's where gold has been found, there are so many amateur's out there thinking they are treasure hunter's or gold miners....these people have really increased when gold started to shoot up past the $400 mark....so I really don't like to be around a bunch of knuckleheads, and they can be dangerous as well....I don't know what State you reside in, but I am wondering how people can ever get the chance to find a place to prospect without all of the knuckleheads around....it seems like you have a pristine place to prospect, but it is very difficult out here in the Mother Lode area's....I do a lot of research, and I love it! As a matter-of-fact, as I was doing research this afternoon, I found what I have been looking for....a resource that will show me active and inactive mines in the entire U.S.! and this is gonna be a real treat! You are so right about getting the right equipment....you are only as good as your tools....I can't thank you enough for being so generous with your experience, and I still wish you would make a video....put me down for one right now!...SushiDog
 

Sushidog, Just thought I'd drop in and comment on your question about finding a place to prospect. Actually, there are many places that are available to a dedicated prospector. Lanny might find it difficult to answer this question since he is in AB (Canada.)

The thing to keep in mind is, most of those "knuckleheads" are out there due to their hopes of "striking it rich". And like the 49ers, 99.2% of them haven't a clue as to where to go, or what to do. Take the time to read about prospecting. Learn what kind of tools are needed. Remember Lanny's hints on reading the rivers and streams. Then, find out where gold has been found that you can get to easily, THEN, DON'T GO THERE!! That is where you find the "Knuckleheads."

Most of these week-end warriors have read treasure stories and/or watched Hollywood's version of the gold rush and think they can find gold where ever they can find a place to park their cars. (And, they can, if they know what to look for,) but, they don't, so they line the streams beside the hiways and "some" adventurious ones will even hike a couple hundred yards up a gulch to look around. Most of those come back out of the gulch when they find there's no water for panning. :laughing9:

Anyway, what I'm saying here is; there are many places you can go and find gold, (especially in your area. But, if it's peace and quite you want, be prepared to do some hiking (and climbing.) That's about the only way you'll find what your looking for. I've done a bit of prospecting in your general area, and found quite a bit of gold, so I know it's there. Check out the town of Washington, and above that, the little burg of Granitville. Lots of streams around there. All of them will show gold.

Wishing you luck in whatever you do.

Eagle
 

Eagledown....thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my last post....everything you say is so true, and right on the "mark"....as I mentioned also in my last post, I found a great resource earlier this afternoon that will show me active and inactive mine sites (as well as a treasure trove of ancillary info) covering the entire United States....why do I want that info? I have always been curious as to where the miners set up their camps or tent cities....especially when I am at a location where hydraulic mining took place, and I see all of the tailings piled up....those guys had to live somewhere, and that's the spot or area that I would like to prospect with a metal detector....I do take my time and read the lay of the land, and any other tell tale signs that may give me a clue or two....even if I don't find something, it has still been a great day being in the wilderness, and being around all of the animal life in the area....so my attitude is: I am going to an area that I have researched well....what the possibilities and probabilities of finding anything are....and IF I do find something (anything), it's icing on the cake....thanks again for your encouragement and words of wisdom....that was very nice of you to do so....SushiDog
 

Some nice, sassy river gold and a shored-up hand excavation.
 

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Hey Lanny, thanks for the latest picture, (not the pit and Xmas tree,) the one above it. Love to hit the sack with pictures of gold nuggets dancing in my head. :headbang: :laughing9: :laughing9:

Eagle
 

Sushi--somebody dug a heck of a hole gettin' the gold in that spot. I had a little fun, climbed in, and had my partner snap a shot. The "Christmas Tree" was a bonus.

Nuggy--I took a peek at your link--that would be so much fun if I didn't have a day job. It looks mighty temptin'--that's for sure. By the way--it is just a bit on the cold side up here right now! I'll keep thinking balmy summer thoughts of mountain prospecting, dredging, and just plain tryin' to remember about bein' warm.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Eagledown--Great to see you back!! And, thanks for sharing that sound advice about where to go, what to do, and the determination required to get there. You're right on with your helpful tips.

All the best,

Lanny

By the way--are these the tough to get in to, off the beaten track, out of the way places you might be referring to?

 

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Thank you kind Sir!! I do wish my notification of posts had been working properly, then I wouldn't have had to read so much to catch up. :laughing7:
Anyway, I don't want to take over your thread any more than I want someone to take over mine. Which reminds me, I have another story to post. Talk to you later.

Not happy hunting, but Happy Finding!!

Eagle
 

Eagle:

Don't ever worry about taking over--your wisdom and knowledge is much appreciated, and I'll always have a spot for you to post a story or two--when you're ready to share. This thread is a community well--how's that for a metaphor--that many can fill and many can draw from.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Hi Lanny, looks like someone left your playground too long in the freezer, thats some serious frosts you got happening there. It's muggy and sweaty here today, ideal for dredging if I had time. Nuggy
 

Lanny....I am really interested in your Hookah rig....did you build it yourself? I was pricing some (a tip I got here) and they run somewhere around $2,500.00....if you didn't build it yourself, any tips on buying such a rig?....SushiDog
 

Nuggy--you're killing me! Nothing I'd like better than some warm weather for dredging and nugget shooting right now. The only option I have is to hop down to Arizona and get out in the desert again--but that takes a lot of time that I just don't have right now. Enjoy your warm weather. (I thought I'd add a shot of some of the local fauna.)

All the best,

Lanny





 

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Sorry Sushi--I don't. I bought the whole outfit brand new and I ordered it all as a package.

All the best,

Lanny
 

Lanny in AB said:
By the way--are these the tough to get in to, off the beaten track, out of the way places you might be referring to?


Wow, if it were not for all the trees, I'd think you found one of my "secret spots" on the middle fork of the Yuba river. I had to use ropes to lower my 5" dredge and equipment into it. (Until I found an easier way to get in.) :laughing7:

The biggest complaint my dredging buddy had was: "There's no fine gold, nothing but nuggets". To which I answered: "Boo Hoo". :laughing7:

Thanks for the kind words,

Sorry I didn't notice your question earlier.

Eagle
 

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