Beach find.

[firstbiggestmost]

Hi everyone,
I found this hunting the fresh cuts at high tide. Its made of wood and brass/bronze. I'm guessing its part of a boat or fishing gear?? It looks fairly old. Any ideas??
Thanks and happy hunting.

This one is solved thanks to help from the Director of Archaeology-Mel Fisher Maritime Heritage Society.
Now all I have to do is figure out how to preserve this thing, oh and what ship it might be from.
Thanks for all the help.
Happy huntingYou have found a wooden pulley sheave with a brass coak. The sheave is the wheel inside a pulley, and the coak acts as a bearing to protect the wood of the sheave from bearing worn by the axle-like pin on which it turns. Judging by the broad arrows, the piece most likely originated from a British Royal Navy vessel. The wood is worm-eaten but looks to be pretty hard stuff, probably lignum vitae. I do not know what the other markings mean, but they are probably decipherable, given enough research. You might search information concerning the equipment of the Roayal Navy. Offhand, the item appears to be from the 19th century.

Some helpful links are below. It may be that your piece was actually made at the Portsmouth mill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portsm...d_measurement/05.ST.02/?scene=3&tv=truecolor]

 

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[firstbiggestmost]

Thanks, I just added the text to the top since I was already there to modify the status. Guess I could have checked some of the other posts. This has been fun Learning about my find and how to post pics etc., to the board
Till next time HH.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Its a cool find from an 19th century British Navy sailing ship. You can probably pinpoint the wreck it came from in your area. If I get time Ill search for you.

If you post in the shipwreck section here at TN, they can probably tell you right away.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks, I just added the text to the top since I was already there to modify the status. Guess I could have checked some of the other posts. This has been fun Learning about my find and how to post pics etc., to the board
Till next time HH.

Its OK to add to the top but you also needed to post in real time so followers of this thread would be notified. I just happened to search it out. If I didnt, nobody would have been notified that it was solved.

It appears you have found a possible British wrecksite. Was it found at Vero Beach? I found an unidentified thin solid silver tag after a hurricane that I think may also be from a British shipwreck, because nobody lived there in the mid-19th century. It appears to show the birth and death dates of a 3 day old child, JoAnn L. Hall 12-30-43---1-2-44. Its hand engraved, on both sides, in an old english style and I think its a coffin tag. Numbers G-1506 (grave number? ) on the back. I should take it to the museum maybe they can help. I posted here before but no solid ID yet.. You can see where my friend scratched it scraping off the encrustations. Sorry to hijack.

 

[firstbiggestmost]

Big cypress, thanks for the posting tip. I didnt even think about the notification feature. Now I know.

I found the pulley sheave in the area of the boiler wreck aka, SS Brekonshire in Vero. The Brekonshire was a English schooner rigged steam ship built in 1884 and sank in 1894. This seems to be the right time period, but there could be other shipwrecks in the area. I'm still researching the other marks on the sheave, hoping to get a better fix on its age. I am also trying to find examples of hand made Royal Navy sheaves produced right before assembly line mass production began in 1805. It's funny that I didnt know any of that when I woke up Sunday.

Nice silver tag, looks like the grandad of the cremation tags I find sometimes.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Big cypress, thanks for the posting tip. I didnt even think about the notification feature. Now I know.

I found the pulley sheave in the area of the boiler wreck aka, SS Brekonshire in Vero. The Brekonshire was a English schooner rigged steam ship built in 1884 and sank in 1894. This seems to be the right time period, but there could be other shipwrecks in the area. I'm still researching the other marks on the sheave, hoping to get a better fix on its age. I am also trying to find examples of hand made Royal Navy sheaves produced right before assembly line mass production began in 1805. It's funny that I didnt know any of that when I woke up Sunday.

Nice silver tag, looks like the grandad of the cremation tags I find sometimes.

Creamation tag was mentioned but they were not creamating until many years after the 1840's. I guess my find wouldnt be from the Brekonshire. Ill have to check a map. Interesting.

 

[firstbiggestmost]

Creamation tag was mentioned but they were not creamating until many years after the 1840's. I guess my find wouldnt be from the Brekonshire. Ill have to check a map. Interesting.

Its interesting that the hole looks worn out. Looks like it hung from a necklace etc. for a while before it was lost. I know that modern cemeterys bury infants at no charge, usualy with no head stone. Maybe this cemetery gave the pendants with the grave location as a courtesy or/and in place of a head stone?

HH.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Heres the story of the Brekonshire. http://www.ocean-grill.com/Breconshire-Wreck.html

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Creamation tag was mentioned but they were not creamating until many years after the 1840's. I guess my find wouldnt be from the Brekonshire. Ill have to check a map. Interesting.

Its interesting that the hole looks worn out. Looks like it hung from a necklace etc. for a while before it was lost. I know that modern cemeterys bury infants at no charge, usualy with no head stone. Maybe this cemetery gave the pendants with the grave location as a courtesy or/and in place of a head stone?

HH.

My friend and I were detecting after a hurricane. We were looking for gold and silver cobs. When I found this very thin tag, I thought it was worthless and my buddy put it on his keychain. That caused the hole to look worn. Later he scraped off the coral revealing the engraving.

Nobody lived in the Vero area but Indians in the mid 19th century. There was a failed settlement fort that was completely abandoned by 1850. Thats why I think it was from a shipwreck. I found it 10 feet deep on the beach. There is no JoAnn Hall in the Florida Death Index.

Here are the old posts. a lot to read. Thanks for trying to help.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,19394.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,30059.0.html

 

[firstbiggestmost]

I found this picture that shows a sheave like mine printed in the Royal Navy seamanship manual from the 1790's
Mine is in the center right of the print. I origionally thought the pulley might be from the Breckonshire but she was built in 1884 and sank in 1894 so the dates dont match. Im starting to think that my pulley was built in 1794(DR-94). Maybe the DR stands for date recieved? Still not sure about the LM/WT mark but I think it has to do with whoever manufactured it.

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/steel/part5.htm

If anyone has any ideas Id like to hear them.

Thanks and HH.