Baggage Tag, 2 - LCs & an Early Wrist Watch

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Baggage Tag, 2 - LC's & an Early Wrist Watch


I headed back to the 1860 farm site for 3hrs this morning and made some decent finds! :thumbsup:
I decided to hit the field to the west of the house and within the first 5 minutes I found the baggage tag. The CNR's main rail line between Toronto & Montreal runs directly through this property about 500' from where I found this piece. My next find was the large copper coin, which unfortunately is completely toasted! :p My next find was the pocket / wrist watch. I'm pretty sure this is a wrist watch, but the back comes off just like a pocket watch.
My next find was an unusual center-fire brass shotgun shell. Normally I'd just chuck something like this into my recycling bucket, but this one was thick and had a manufactures stamp on it that I'd never seen before!
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Towards the end of my hunt I found the plated brass harness buckle and a 1906 Canadian LC!
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Here is some info I found about the the marks stamped into the back of the watch, I couldn't find any info on 'Ideal US'. As well as, some info on the shotgun casing.

‘Ideal US’ Early Wristwatch Ser. 91390 - ‘Silveroid’ Ser. 1026006

I believe ‘Silveroid’ is an alloy of copper and nickel sometimes known as nickel silver or German silver. It's more practical than silver, gold or gold-filled cases and was the best material for cases until the advent of stainless steel. Keystone Watch Case Co's Patent for the Silveroid trademark was filed on Oct 17, 1900 however it is also listed as being in use since Jan. 1, 1886.

Kynock Birmingham No. 12/ Eley London No. 10 Center fire Cap

Kynoch was a manufacturer of ammunition, later incorporated into ICI but remaining as a brand name for sporting cartridges. Scottish entrepreneur George Kynoch established Kynoch in Witton in Birmingham in 1862 when he opened a percussion cap factory in Witton. Kynoch, along with names such as Eley, became brands of subsidiaries.

Thanks very much for looking,
Dave


PS. I took the pic of a large deer from the ridge overlooking a field behind the barn.
 

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Good to see you are still getting out, I like the old baggage tags, cool find!
Those old watches show up every now and then, I've got a couple myself, sadly they're in about the same shape as yours , still neat
 

I'm thinking the watch is WW1 military issue
 

Awesome you can still hunt & dig the ground!
 

Good to see you are still getting out, I like the old baggage tags, cool find!
Those old watches show up every now and then, I've got a couple myself, sadly they're in about the same shape as yours , still neat

You know how it is living in Canada, we have to take advantage of the mild weather while we've got it eh! :laughing7: The watch was an interesting find for me as I've never found one like this. It almost looks like a pocket watch 'hybrid' or a 'crossover' type where people are transitioning from pocket to wrist watches. :dontknow:
Best of luck to you my friend!
Dave



I'm thinking the watch is WW1 military issue

Thanks very much for this JG! :thumbsup:
I haven't been able to find a similar example online. :icon_scratch:
Dave



Awesome you can still hunt & dig the ground!

Thanks for your post BB!
The ground here is very muddy and frozen in spots, but it's still digable! :thumbsup:
Happy Hunting to you,
Dave
 

Nice baggage tag. Those are highly collectable. To bad I've only ever found one!
 

Nice baggage tag. Those are highly collectable. To bad I've only ever found one!
Thanks very much Steve! :occasion14:
I was a bit disappointed it wasn't railroad associated . . . who knows, maybe it's stagecoach related? :dontknow:
Dave
 

Some nice finds there, man! Too bad about the toasted copper :( I know exactly how you feel about that... found a few lately that I absolutely can not ID.
 

Some nice finds there, man! Too bad about the toasted copper :( I know exactly how you feel about that... found a few lately that I absolutely can not ID.

It definitely is frustrating DH! Most of the time old coins I have some type of 'surface cancer' going on, but usually I can make some details out!
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Unfortunately this coin is worn almost completely smooth, so it must've been in the ground being pushed around by the plow for a long time! I've now had it in the tumbler for 2hrs, I've just checked it and I'm pretty sure it's an 1837 Lower Canada Half Penny. Here's what it used to look like! :thumbsup:

Thanks for your post and best of luck to you,
Dave
 

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ah yes... still looking for one of those :) I've found a couple Upper Canada half pennies, though. Love the pre-confederation tokens :)
 

ah yes... still looking for one of those :) I've found a couple Upper Canada half pennies, though. Love the per-confederation tokens :)

I love finding Canadian Pre-confederation coins too, but they're rare as hens teeth! :laughing7:
Although I get just as excited when I find any LC!

HH, Dave
 

Yup... love the LCs too :) I'm at 23 (Canadian LCs that is) for the year... and I get just as excited each time :)
 

Yup... love the LCs too :) I'm at 23 (Canadian LCs that is) for the year... and I get just as excited each time :)

23 LC's on the year isn't too shabby my friend, :hello2: I've only found 15 this year! For the year I'm at 6 pre-confederation tokens and 10 silvers. I mostly hunt farms and old homesteads, so as you know, coins are a lot harder to find at these locals. :dontknow:


Awesome find! Congrats!

Thanks very much Eric, best of luck to you! :thumbsup:
Dave
 

I just found a picture online of what the watch use to look like!
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Very cool finds Dave !
Glen
 

I like the Tag - early 1900s?
 

Cool finds, I'm hoping to get out today, but it's pretty cold here Detroit! I love fin dining the Canadian large cents. I find them every now and then, HH. Detroitdigger.
 

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