Az. Meteorites belong to Goverment!!!!!!

so no gathering up meteorites from (blm) govt / publicly owed land -- since they are now on the "non
collectibles"" list now -- only for da "grubbermint" -- not for the public who "offically" owns --publicly owned land . :icon_scratch: :help: :dontknow:

ARPA * law ---ANY ARCHOLOGICAL RESOURCE MORE THAN 10 YEARS OLD --

SO A 1999 ZINC CENT THAT "MIGHT" BE FOUND IN THE FUTURE --(POSSIBLE FUTURE ARCHOLOGICAL ITEM / RESOURCE) IS ILLEGAL TO REMOVE BY THAT LOOSELY WRITTEN BIT OF GARBAGE.

next year I'll be over 50 on my birthday -- hope I do not trip and fall hurting myself ---since no one can pick up and remove anything over 50 years old --I'd be screwed.--- no one could pick me up to go to the hospital.
 

No problem, turn them in, just hope I don't mistake a meteorite for a hot rock, I collect "hot rocks". :wink:
 

Spooky said:
Treasure_Hunter said:
No problem, turn them in, just hope I don't mistake a meteorite for a hot rock, I collect "hot rocks". :wink:
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I can see dropping a tub of 'meteorites' off DAILY....
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Hey, WHY NOT? Get a few people together and dump several tubs of rocks on the doorstep of the BLM office 3 or 4 times a week. The BLM'ers would HAVE to check each one, wouldn't they? Wonder how long it'd take for them to get the idea?
 

Shortstack said:
Spooky said:
Treasure_Hunter said:
No problem, turn them in, just hope I don't mistake a meteorite for a hot rock, I collect "hot rocks". :wink:
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lol!!
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I can see dropping a tub of 'meteorites' off DAILY....
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Hey, WHY NOT? Get a few people together and dump several tubs of rocks on the doorstep of the BLM office 3 or 4 times a week. The BLM'ers would HAVE to check each one, wouldn't they? Wonder how long it'd take for them to get the idea?
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Love your idea... :icon_thumright: That is the way to go, maybe instead of a tub, maybe a dumptruck would be better...... "I think these are meteorities"
 

I hope this is simply a joke. For the State of Arizona to claim meteorites as theirs...is ridiculous.

People in that state need to do whatever it is to change the law and then take the officials out into the desert.
:-X
 

Cappy Z. said:
I hope this is simply a joke. For the State of Arizona to claim meteorites as theirs...is ridiculous.

People in that state need to do whatever it is to change the law and then take the officials out into the desert.
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Umm....... Sounds good as long as bringing them back is not part of the plan ;D
 

Cappy Z. said:
I hope this is simply a joke. For the State of Arizona to claim meteorites as theirs...is ridiculous.

People in that state need to do whatever it is to change the law and then take the officials out into the desert.
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http://www.blm.gov/or/programs/minerals/noncollectables.php

Sorry Cappy, it's not the state of Arizona that is trying to claim them, it is the Federal Government.....AKA the same elected thieves in Washington, who work maybe 2 days a week, eligible for full pension and insurance after 5 years. They are eligible to begin drawing their pension at age 50 if they have 20 years service, or are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach the age of 62.

Assuming their salaries remained at the same level as in 2009 and they stayed in Congress 20 years, the annual retirement benefit would be .8 X $174,000 or $139, 200 per year. In what other jobs can they duplicate that retirement plan?

For computation purposes, annual salary is the average of the three highest years’ salary.

In 1989, Congress passed an amendment allowing for automatic raises, unless lawmakers specifically voted to reject it. Which Congress did until 2000 when Republicans were in charge. So no garbage about Demos versus the GOP. My gripe is with liberal politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, who have almost ruined this country.

These are the people making these stupid laws.............
 

if this really is a fed law i am sure it will not just cover AZ either .. so i drive a truck lets get some hot rocks and such and just make a ring around the congress and senate and make them see what they obviously they cant see. damn politicians always after what is in my pocket ( please everyone vote these fools out and pay attention to the issues ) i know it is a second job practically and they will lie and cheat to keep or get that power but slowly our Right to the pursuit of happiness is being eroded ..

socialist and communists have plenty of other places in this world to continue to mess up, just go there if it is your ideologue paradise. and leave America to be Free, to be the Best.

unbelievable amount of regulation these past two administrations have passed, arnold and the ecowienies getting suction dredging stopped in cali. now meteorites, soon we will have to where helmets while driving cars. the nanny state is here and taking over.

sorry i ll step off the soap box and got back to heating up the hot tar and plucking some chickens to get the feathers. washington here i come!


Axgar
 

Hey All,
It's actually only one (just one) BLM website. The one for Washington/Oregon. And the poor simple boob that wrote the paragraph on collecting meteorites, put himself, and his employers way out on a legal limb using "an interpretation of The 1906 Antiquities Act". If you actually read the act, it only applies to man-made, historical, archeological, or paleontological items. Some years ago in Arizona, two indian burial sites were found to have meteorites, along with other typical possessions like pottery, arrowheads, etc. This shows that meteorites were personally important to TWO (2) particular indians, making THOSE TWO meteorites only, into cultural items. It does not magically, turn the other bizzillion meteorites in Arizona that were not buried with dead indians, into antiquities. The Eco-nazi that wrote that paragraph is merely inserting HIS interpretation with the hopes of scaring off collectors. Question: if two hard-core bikers die, and are buried with their Harley's, does that then make ALL MOTORCYCLES into religious, cultural, and if buried, paleontological items that the Government can no longer tax or license? I know the answer, and so do you. And so do the courts. And when the courts get hold of this one person's interpretation, that person's employment and finances will be"interpreted".
Don't be afraid of one low-level Green-Gestapo propagandist. READ The 1906 Antiquities Act.
Anon
 

washington state archie type folks making another "long arm" type grab of any item that someone might find and make a buck off selling -- its all part of their grand "NO TREASURE HUNTING ALLOWED" In WASHINGTON STATE PROGRAM (even on your "own" land --all artifacts over 50 years old belong to the state of washington)--so the only way for people to get any to get cash in their state will be to work like a dog (while the state taxes you to death)--or apply for govt aid programs
 

FEAR NOT MY FELLOW EARTHLINGS, :hello: UNCLE MARVIN SAYS ..................
 

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Maybe it was a Arizona typo????????? Anything with the word alien is illegal. Since meteorites are from outer space and so are aliens . Alien rocks are now illegal. And illegal aliens are now illegal and so are their rocks. You know what they mean. :hello:
Happy hunting!
 

Federal Goverment needs to worry about getting control of the 3 counties that the State of Arizona no longer has control over. This area is the size of the state of Connecticut and has been taken over by foreign illegal armed invaders.
 

truckinbutch said:
Cappy Z. said:
I hope this is simply a joke. For the State of Arizona to claim meteorites as theirs...is ridiculous.

People in that state need to do whatever it is to change the law and then take the officials out into the desert.
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You can't do that either, read further on in the article "Please remember not to leave any modern day artifacts or human remains of your own (haul out your trash from remote areas), take only photographs and leave only footprints on designated paths."

Hell, you'd be breaking their laws if you went out there an put a gun to your head and blew your own brains out! Pretty soon they will be saying no farting on federal lands and making a law against that! They will be installing fart detectors and triangulate on your position and come to arrest you!
 

Ok its fine to know what our past is all about be it 200 years ago or 200,000 years ago but personally i don't give dam about a pair of shoes 10,500 years old and neither should the Gov. that goes for something that came from outer space about 1 million years ago who cares what other planets and moons are made of or the big bang !! right now our planet is falling apart due to our meddling with nature with oil pollution over population and we the people are paying for it because of all the stupid mistakes the Gov. has made as far as trying to fix the problem ,what are they afraid of we might find the truth by picking up meteorites off the ground ? Makes one wonder why a top brand MD company :-X got a order for 8000 military grade MD,s made for finding meteorites and ex stream hot rocks :read2: in the state of Arz. the Gov. did not care when they set off how many Nuke bombs back when and totally distorted any Archy finds . hhmm
it all sounds fishy to me no pun on fish fossils :tongue3:
 

All it BOILS DOWN to is taking MORE personal rights away on PUBLIC LANDS.
Take Lake Mead National Recreation Area ,...........You certainly CAN'T do much on that designated property to RECREATE CAN YOU !!!!!!
 

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