Arrowhead Age Help. Found in the woods along the Middle Fork river in Meadowview Virginia. I know its old but would it be paleo old?

[Barefeets]

 

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[villagenut]

Interesting material.....Wonder what it is.

 

[Barefeets]

Interesting material.....Wonder what it is.

No clue. The patina is actually tiny dimples in the stone similar to a golf ball. It is a very hard stone also.

 

[vpnavy]

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[newnan man]

That is odd material. Good find.

 

[Tdog]

Oolitic chert?

 

[Barefeets]

Thanks!

 

[Older The Better]

I’d lean archaic over paleo based on the workmanship and the stem but it’s also out of my range.

 

[Relicgrubber]

Cool material. We have river cobble that looks the same. I have always just called it Fossiliferous chert...

 

[Tnmountains]

Maybe a worn Brewerton side notch? Wild material for sure. Some type of fossil.

 

[CoinsAndThings]

Maybe a worn Brewerton side notch? Wild material for sure. Some type of fossil.

I'm thinking fossil or bone. The material reminds me of whale bone. While in Mexico many years ago, I picked up a piece of whale bone on a beach. It looks almost the same.

 

[Barefeets]

Oolitic chert?

I believe it is definitely oolitic or fossiliferrous chert, which I had not heard of before. Thanks for the knowledge! I'm studying up on it to try to get a close age. While fishing yesterday about 100 feet from this find, I also found this stone/gem. I'm very stumped on it if any rockhounds have an opinion it will be appreciated!

 

[tamrock]

I have a book I go by and I've always thought the timeline styles of arrowheads are pretty universal across the whole United States. Back east there were once the same game such as Buffalo and Elk as there was and still today here on the Great Plains. I have found pretty much ever time-line style of point from paleo to late prehistoric in my area.

 

[uniface]

To answer your question, it's likely a much reduced Archaic notched point.

I'm staying tuned to learn what the blue pebble is (beside pretty

 

[dognose]

The material looks like harrodsburg chert to me.

harrodsburg chert outcrops in southern Indiana and northern Kentucky. which is not that far of a distance for material to be found.

I find Flintridge, Jeffersonville, Liston Creek, Harrison County, Burlington in Indiana often.

So finding a southern Indian flint 300 miles from the source is not unheard of.

According to "Prehistoric Chert Types of the Midwest" (which is an excellent material reference), harrodsburg chert was rarely used during Paleo Indian times. Usage during the Early Archaic is moer common with the occasional Kirk Tradition and Bifurcute Tradition being made of this type.
Other fossiliferous chert of the Midwest are very similar including Bishar, Brassfield, some Muldraugh and other oolithic chert.

 

[Older The Better]

Does that book cover Nebraska/Kansas/Oklahoma area? I’ve bought “Midwest” books before that barley cover beyond St. Louis. I’d love to Find a good material reference book

 

[Barefeets]

I have a book I go by and I've always thought the timeline styles of arrowheads are pretty universal across the whole United States. Back east there were once the same game such as Buffalo and Elk as there was and still today here on the Great Plains. I have found pretty much ever time-line style of point from paleo to late prehistoric in my area.

I agree. I've never gotten to hunt artifacts out west but I've read a lot about it. If all the artifacts were put together that have been found in the tobacco o fields here in the appalachains of Virginia it would surprise me if there were any other place that had a much greater density of artifacts. As a kid I remember new neighbors tilling up a garden and filling up a shoebox full of arrowheads. I'm about 15 minutes from Saltville where they have found whole wooly mammoths also. Any luck out west finding arrowheads or artifacts with gold or silver in them?

To answer your question, it's likely a much reduced Archaic notched point.

I'm staying tuned to learn what the blue pebble is (beside pretty

Thanks. I've been picking up arrowheads since I learned to walk (Dad took advantage of my youth to keep him from having to bend over lol) and I still learn with almost every find.

 

[Barefeets]

Maybe a worn Brewerton side notch? Wild material for sure. Some type of fossil.

@Tnmountains does a style by itself mostly determine the age or are there some types of material that were only used in certain time periods? I know most flint around here is more recent stuff but it can be found alongside really rare material also with the same style.

 

[uniface]

Both, partly. You can only simplify a complex picture so far without twisting it out of shape.

FWIW

 

[Tnmountains]

@Tnmountains does a style by itself mostly determine the age or are there some types of material that were only used in certain time periods? I know most flint around here is more recent stuff but it can be found alongside really rare material also with the same style.

Style by itself helps determine the age. But material and artifacts traveled. I have a beautiful Daton and for the life of me can not figure out the material. I have many points and buckets full of Del Rio Chert a whole valley full yet it is not supposed to be even close to me.Try these sites.

Virginia Licthic Materials

Virginia Lithic Materials / Virginia Chert

www.projectilepoints.net

search better pics of Helderberg chert
Good luck