Any ideas of what this map/carving is saying?

[charliejr]

Alan David Workman - Bookseller - Treasure Magazine Page <<< Ha, the Holy Grail (Shhhhhh* top secret). I'll add more later.

http://mydesertmagazine.com/ <<< Archives -some 1st class info. Maps, signs, etc. (You might want to get these before this archive disappears, seriously. Goes all the way back to the late 30's (A MUST HAVE!). A TROVE IN ITSELF! GO THERE NOW!

Just remember who sent ya.

 

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[Shortstack]

it seems that a photo in this book was "borrowed" by rangler and posted in one of his post made not too long ago. Did rangler get these folks permission?

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To be honest, we "borrowed" one of the images from TN and the other from a web page somewhere. Since this "book" is offered for free and we are not getting anything at all, we felt it was ok to include it in the book. We forgot about these two images when we made the claim that all the photos were ours. We don't know who took the originals of these two phoeos.
I&D

Well, Charliejr, I mistakenly posted your comment with my "Thank You" post. I MEANT to thank Indiana$Dirk for his fast and HONEST reply because he readily admitted that they had "borrowed" some photos.
Put, HEY, thank you, too. LOL

 

[charliejr]

Ha ha, I hear ya. Those links I posted are good links. That second one has everything a T-hunter could ask for. Get'em while you can.

 

[charliejr]

@Indiana$Dirk there is no need to cuss me or insult me outside Tnet or my email. I have attempted to help you and provide you with information that confirms what you think you have found, by others before you. There are hundreds if not thousands of articles relating to the area.

If you took the time (which would have taken about 1 week to 1 month) to read the informtion I posted, you would have your answers.

I attempted to be nice to you, and you basically talked to me like a punk. That is immature and disrespectful.

I will not be helping you any more. Good luck, God Bless.

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

No disrespect to the poster, but I have the maps and pictures of this from the 50's, and the cash outs were in the multi-millions. I do not have the exact number of cache's pulled or still suspected in that area.

Instead of providing any useful information about these "maps and pictures" you claim to have, you point vaguely off to where I might find something if I was lucky after spending months and months of heavy research. That is less than helpful and implies you don't know anything. What you are saying is that you think you might have heard rumors of something possibly remotely connected which you can't remember much about. I can learn more from the writers of a 250 years old rock map.

 

[charliejr]

I will never give information to those who are not willing to work for it. The seniority here will tell you the same thing. The funny thing about hunting in the desert (like the information I gave you) is that you could point at something -and you know it's there- but one young buck steps up, and doesn't see the "writing on the wall".

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make'em drink.

Besides, the real treasure was your journey, but you were to eager to get to the end. The treasure of your freedom and life, and that you don't have to deal with real cut throat treasure hunters. (Eyes 6 shooter in glass on the wall).

I am not going to argue with you. *grazes hand over yellow 5 troy on desk* If you really wanted to know, you would be working on it, not trying to argue with me.

 

[desertmoons]

Hey dirk and az, thank you for sharing your fascinating journey. Your perseverance is admirable and I could imagine myself there, looking under rocks, gazing around and gazing some more hoping for illumination.I know it took a lot of work to create the book too and well done! Your efforts at decrypting....well so impressive to me. Anyway ..well done and I hope you have many more adventures Thanks again!

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

I will never give information to those who are not willing to work for it.

Try reading the book first before you make any comments. For all I know you are nothing but hot air. I don't have time to waste on blow hards.

 

[gollum]

CW0909,

When I was introduced to the person that was one of the group that found those gold bars, he allowed me to be the first person he had ever let make hi resolution digital scans of all his old photographs. He actually wrote the story for Treasure Magazine in 1986. He gave me a copy of his story, along with the rest of the story that came after the magazine article was written. At the time, I was in the process of resurrecting an old Treasure Hunting Newsletter. Some conflicts with a couple of the many previous owners caused this resurrection to fail and the newsletter to stay dead.

Since it is such a fantastic story, and the finder is really a great guy, I wanted to make sure the story wasn't just forgotten, so I added it to my website.

Shortstack,

The short answer to your question is NO! Both of those pictures are from a combination of my website (1oro1.com) and Treasurenet I had posted those pictures separately.

The Jesuits

82 found

Probably just jacked from my website though.


Indiana$Dirk,

While I don't have any problem with you using the pictures from my website since this is a freely distributed story. I do wish you would have asked permission or at least cited your source rather than stating "All Pictures by Indiana Jones Dirk Pitt and Darryl Hannah." If you know the finder, and had his permission to use his pics, then you should have stated so as well. And at least get the story straight. The golrs in the second pic from Arizona, not Northern Mexico (as you State).

I do appreciate your honestly in answering Shortstack's Question (even though there wasn't much of any kind of alternative source).




Mike

 

[desertmoons]

Charlie..thanks for the desert archive. Fascinating stuff

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

Indiana$Dirk,

While I don't have any problem with you using the pictures from my website since this is a freely distributed story. I do wish you would have asked permission or at least cited your source rather than stating "All Pictures by Indiana Jones Dirk Pitt and Darryl Hannah." If you know the finder, and had his permission to use his pics, then you should have stated so as well. And at least get the story straight. The golrs in the second pic from Arizona, not Northern Mexico (as you State).

I do appreciate your honestly in answering Shortstack's Question (even though there wasn't much of any kind of alternative source).
Mike

Adding the note about the sources of the photos into the book was an afterthought and I had forgotten about the two photos of the gold and silver bars. When I organized the book, I could not remember where I'd gotten the pictures. Now that I know, I'll put a note in any future editions and make other corrections you mentioned. I&D

 

[rangler]

dowser501
i m not sure that you mean to say the word 'graffiti'..as it is defiantly not graffiti~! and it is a map, probably of Spanish origin
and meant to look like petroglyphs..better pics, and more searching in the area it can be decoded.
oro
rangler

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

@ Rangler: Dowser501 posted 6 years ago. I don't think hes around much. Did you read our account of decription of the map? https://docs.google.com/file/d/1on31...7MA/edit?pli=1

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

Thanks Desertmoons for your kind response. We hope that this will encourage other treasure hunters to follow their dream. And that they can learn a little more to help them decrypt what ever evidence they have to work with.

 

[Twisted Fork]

Phoenix Library Archives and rare collections

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

Phoenix Library Archives and rare collections

Not sure I understand why you posted this......

 

[Twisted Fork]

Yep..A daisy chain

 

[Indiana$Dirk]

The second edtion of the book is now on Google Docs. this is corrected for the credits for the two photos missed before. just click on the following url:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=1ahqeH_MGv9Sj6YeS1n8nU5ioUMHMBk5dhM4np_PNibnDWSKxgrAin6dN4Osa

 

[Twisted Fork]

Probably as good a place as any to mention a little something about some of the caches that have been found out to be poisoned in some way or another.

The cyanide mixtures used by miners of the day, has been know to be used as a booby trap. In doing a little more research today, I found that another angle to consider in digging up such a find may be filled with one more surprise yet; this cyanide laced booty will be just fine in it's form, just as long as it is keep nice and cool although one must never touch it with bare skin or wipe the sweat from their brow just the same. Fact is that the poison becomes a gas when the temperature rises to 79 degrees or warmer. There it is...the gold, cool a cucumbers and sitting there in the hole you have just dug. As you stare in awe, the now direct sunlight has done it's job just as the miners intended and next thing you know, you are sticking your head back down into the dig for a nice long rest after a few fine breaths of the executioner's choice of deadly gas. Don't forget your baking soda girls...............

 

[Springfield]

Probably as good a place as any to mention a little something about some of the caches that have been found out to be poisoned in some way or another.

The cyanide mixtures used by miners of the day, has been know to be used as a booby trap. In doing a little more research today, I found that another angle to consider in digging up such a find may be filled with one more surprise yet; this cyanide laced booty will be just fine in it's form, just as long as it is keep nice and cool although one must never touch it with bare skin or wipe the sweat from their brow just the same. Fact is that the poison becomes a gas when the temperature rises to 79 degrees or warmer. There it is...the gold, cool a cucumbers and sitting there in the hole you have just dug. As you stare in awe, the now direct sunlight has done it's job just as the miners intended and next thing you know, you are sticking your head back down into the dig for a nice long rest after a few fine breaths of the executioner's choice of deadly gas. Don't forget your baking soda girls...............

Doubtful you'll find a cyanide booby trap unless it is quite recently constructed. Cyanide was first used in very limited instances in the 1890's to recover gold by solution leaching of finely milled ore. It was never used in low-tech lode mining. Of course, since the 1980's it's become the process of choice world wide in heap leach gold mines.

Perhaps you're thinking of mercury. Load and placer mining operations have for centuries used mercury, a toxic material, to recover gold, but it's not 'deadly' per se, except in cumulative exposures. You're not going to die from an initial exposure, but you will get pretty sick if you handle it enough over time.