Any ideas about this rock material.

[G Freeman]

Rock picture 1 and 2 are same rock 3 and 4 are the same rock.
Since there is no natural orange quartz and I got this from my dig site I was thinking maybe Imperial Topaz or Yellow Golden Sapphire. I could be wrong as I have had no one to check this. Just wanted you guys and gals think. Thank you.

 

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[StoneWhisper]

Most rocks can come in a variety of natural colors.. True Quartz is not known to be of a true orange color.. or it would known as something other than quartz, This (your sample) is made to appear more orange because of the dim lighting or soft lighting.. However, the orange you're seeing is a result of a high rust/iron content and and/or overexposure to the elements.

Your sample is nothing more than an overexposed Quartz..

 

[G Freeman]

Most rocks can come in a variety of natural colors.. True Quartz is not known to be of a true orange color.. or it would known as something other than quartz, This (your sample) is made to appear more orange because of the dim lighting or soft lighting.. However, the orange you're seeing is a result of a high rust/iron content and and/or overexposure to the elements.

Your sample is nothing more than an overexposed Quartz..

Thanks StoneWhisper for the reply. I have had overexposed quartz before and mine always turned white. Didn't know it would turn yellow or orange.

 

[loco oro]

nice specimen there freeman,a pic in natural sunlight would illuminate the natural color,citrine is a varity quartz that does have a amber/orangish/yellowish color,but none the less your still getting cool pieces!if it turns out to be citrine,some do facet citrine,although they dont have a real high value but are worth something if you have a cuttable piece.a pic in sunlight would help us out.very cool freeman!

 

[mamabear]

G. it does look like the picture is picking up more orange than the natural color. Having said that, I have a piece of quartz discolored to the orange side. I also think you should take a picture outside so we can see the color better. Whatever it is, it sure is a big chunk of it. Am anxious to see what the ID is.

 

[StoneWhisper]

Thanks StoneWhisper for the reply. I have had overexposed quartz before and mine always turned white. Didn't know it would turn yellow or orange.

Upon several searching in the forest, I was looking for a Tourmalated quartz outcropping due to what is known as a water run off.. back in the day they used the tourmalated quartz as a means to cleanse/clean any rain water that ran through this water run off.. and because the water run off on top of the soil/land.. these rocks would sit in the sunlight or have been sitting in the sun for nearly 100 years if not more.. over time the water and sun and just simple overexposure created a yellowish haze on the surface of the stone. I believe this is due to rust or iron deposits that give the stone the yellow/orange appearance. If broken open you will see the stones true color.. But I wouldn't risk damaging that stone just to see it's interior.. might be best to have it slab cut for a more professional treatment.

Mama, In your case.. might I suggest that you have that stone tested.. I'm seeing slight inclusions or bubble type areas.. sort of reminds me of amber..

 

[G Freeman]

Upon several searching in the forest, I was looking for a Tourmalated quartz outcropping due to what is known as a water run off.. back in the day they used the tourmalated quartz as a means to cleanse/clean any rain water that ran through this water run off.. and because the water run off on top of the soil/land.. these rocks would sit in the sunlight or have been sitting in the sun for nearly 100 years if not more.. over time the water and sun and just simple overexposure created a yellowish haze on the surface of the stone. I believe this is due to rust or iron deposits that give the stone the yellow/orange appearance. If broken open you will see the stones true color.. But I wouldn't risk damaging that stone just to see it's interior.. might be best to have it slab cut for a more professional treatment.

Mama, In your case.. might I suggest that you have that stone tested.. I'm seeing slight inclusions or bubble type areas.. sort of reminds me of amber..

Thanks StoneWhisper, one side of the stone is clear and I can see all the way to the other side looking through it.I will try to get a pic in sunlight and post it. Thanks again.

 

[G Freeman]

G. it does look like the picture is picking up more orange than the natural color. Having said that, I have a piece of quartz discolored to the orange side. I also think you should take a picture outside so we can see the color better. Whatever it is, it sure is a big chunk of it. Am anxious to see what the ID is.

Will try to get a pic in sunlight. Thanks for the reply mamabear. Will post other pic soon.

 

[G Freeman]

Hey StoneWhisper think I found another start of maybe a quartz vein today as I saw the end of a quartz rock sticking out of a bank that had a green tip on the end of it and got the rock about 5 lbs out I found some small pieces of quartz with green in them and got excited again. Going back to dig more in a day or two. Will let you know what I find if anything.

 

[Turkısh Man]

Carnelian, ( chalcedony variety, other names sard or sardonix).Color brown and orange.
Transparent,hardnes 7.

 

[StoneWhisper]

Although Turkish has been dead on with many of his replies.. I feel this stone (G.Freeman's) is not a carnelian.. and the only way to tell is of course better lighting.. Thus I look forward to more (better) images from you Freeman.

 

[G Freeman]

Although Turkish has been dead on with many of his replies.. I feel this stone (G.Freeman's) is not a carnelian.. and the only way to tell is of course better lighting.. Thus I look forward to more (better) images from you Freeman.

Ok StoneWhisper here are pics of the stone in sunlight for you and mamabear. Hope this helps. Thanks to all.

 

[StoneWhisper]

Very clear crystal quartz.. again the orange areas are due to the iron oxide and over exposure.. thou if the crystal was naturally yellowish/orange throughout.. then it' would be put into a citrine class.. good images.. A+

 

[G Freeman]

Very clear crystal quartz.. again the orange areas are due to the iron oxide and over exposure.. thou if the crystal was naturally yellowish/orange throughout.. then it' would be put into a citrine class.. good images.. A+

Thanks StoneWhisper for the info. While I was out in the sunshine I thought I would take a few more pictures of another rock or two and let you look at them and help me with them or somebody jump in and help.
Check the green out in them. Thanks.

 

[loco oro]

hey freeman,nice stuff ,the top pics look smokey to me, but what might be really cool is in the pic,first on the right,if you click to zoom a couple times,the pic blows up,i see red inclusions,tiny ,but they are there,does anyone else see this!? that could be very ,very cool if it is in the rock,and not just a defect in the pic! like to see if anyone else sees this.

 

[G Freeman]

hey freeman,nice stuff ,the top pics look smokey to me, but what might be really cool is in the pic,first on the right,if you click to zoom a couple times,the pic blows up,i see red inclusions,tiny ,but they are there,does anyone else see this!? that could be very ,very cool if it is in the rock,and not just a defect in the pic! like to see if anyone else sees this.

Hey Loco I had not noticed the red inclusions before so I rechecked the rock with my 50 x loop and the red is in the rock and it shines. Don't know what it is but its pretty. can see it in the third picture too. Thanks.

 

[StoneWhisper]

First three images Clear Quartz migration to Smokey Quartz
Last Three.. Because of the nice cubic formations indicates to me with the slight blueish green color could be calcite or fluorite.

 

[Eu_citzen]

I'd go with quartz for both specimens. The red speckles are more then likely hematite inclusions.

 

[Turkısh Man]

Although Turkish has been dead on with many of his replies.. I feel this stone (G.Freeman's) is not a carnelian.. and the only way to tell is of course better lighting.. Thus I look forward to more (better) images from you Freeman.

Carnelian (also sometimes referred to as cornelian) is found primarily in India, as well as various sites in South America. It is a variety of chalcedony. The most favorable pieces are a deep red to red-orange hue. Carnelian has a long and storied past, and was once considered strictly the property of the noble class. People holding a high social status were often buried with this gem stone.

GOOGLE

 

[Eu_citzen]

Carnelian mostly has a waxy lustre, like many others in the chalcedony group, in the pics it looks more greasy to glassy.