any idea on this button and buckle

[squidman]

found these today after work.small button with a crown up top.it also has a horse on its hine legs on the left and what appears to be a goat on the right.the back is totally gone.the buckle has writing on it which appears to read patapr.0187 with capital letters pyb across the middle on the clasp.found these pretty deep.thanx4 looking

 

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[BuckleBoy]

If the back of the button is iron (rusted), then it is probably a blazer or sport coat button. If it is brass, please tell us what the backmark on the button says.

The other piece is some sort of a late-date suspender clip I'd imagine. I have found a few, and suspect they are from the early 20th c., but I am not completely certain of their function and time frame.


Regards,



Buckles

 

[vayank54]

I agree with BuckleBoy on both items. Like him though I'm not 100% positive

 

[72cheyenne]

Some of that lettering and numbering on your buckle is Pat. Apr. 01, '87 = Patented April 1st, 1887. Patents were only good for 15 years before having to be renewed. The patent date was usually dropped by then if the item was still in production, so it is safe to say your buckle is from 1887-1900 time frame.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Some of that lettering and numbering on your buckle is Pat. Apr. 01, '87 = Patented April 1st, 1887. Patents were only good for 15 years before having to be renewed. The patent date was usually dropped by then if the item was still in production, so it is safe to say your buckle is from 1887-1900 time frame.

Mystery solved.

 

[vayank54]

Good Job 72 cheyenne
Why didn't you catch that date buckleboy? I'm getting senile so I have an excuse.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Good Job 72 cheyenne
Why didn't you catch that date buckleboy? I'm getting senile so I have an excuse.

Doh! "patapr."


I don't read too well on Tuesdays...

 

[vayank54]

Good Job 72 cheyenne
Why didn't you catch that date buckleboy? I'm getting senile so I have an excuse.

Doh! "patapr."


I don't read too well on Tuesdays...

Oh ok that explains it.