Another Beale Pamphlet Give-away?

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There are still those who believe in the story is true as it is told, that a party of 30 adventurers roamed about the wilds of the west until they happened to stumbled upon a natural source of gold and silver of extremely high grade. I'm not sure why people still wish to believe in this fairy tale portion of the story as science and history and chemistry pretty much erases any possible chance that these men mined and refined gold and silver from the alleged Colorado territories, this being especially true in the comparatively short amount of time offered in the tale.

Jewels. Interesting here that a "precious stone" doesn't become a "jewel" until after it is cut. This term used by the author of the ciphers quickly putting to rest any debates that the alleged "jewels" were possibly in the form of rough stones. So if silver was traded "jewels" in St. Louis then these stones would represent cut precious stones. And since, from all that I have researched, there was nobody in St. Louis at the time with the ability to cut precious stones then only two possibilities can remain. The first being that the jewels were shipped to a St. Louis interest from another location, or, the stones were in the form of smuggled contraband.

You see, science and history pretty much eliminates all chance that the adventure portion of the Beale story is true. And the term "jewels" pretty much assures that these stones did not originate from the region. So if the two deposits were real then where else might they have originated?
 

There are still those who believe in the story is true as it is told, that a party of 30 adventurers roamed about the wilds of the west until they happened to stumbled upon a natural source of gold and silver of extremely high grade. I'm not sure why people still wish to believe in this fairy tale portion of the story as science and history and chemistry pretty much erases any possible chance that these men mined and refined gold and silver from the alleged Colorado territories, this being especially true in the comparatively short amount of time offered in the tale.

Jewels. Interesting here that a "precious stone" doesn't become a "jewel" until after it is cut. This term used by the author of the ciphers quickly putting to rest any debates that the alleged "jewels" were possibly in the form of rough stones. So if silver was traded "jewels" in St. Louis then these stones would represent cut precious stones. And since, from all that I have researched, there was nobody in St. Louis at the time with the ability to cut precious stones then only two possibilities can remain. The first being that the jewels were shipped to a St. Louis interest from another location, or, the stones were in the form of smuggled contraband.

You see, science and history pretty much eliminates all chance that the adventure portion of the Beale story is true. And the term "jewels" pretty much assures that these stones did not originate from the region. So if the two deposits were real then where else might they have originated?

GREAT question about the Jewelry... think that they were FRENCH; from New France (Canada) or New Orleans.
 

The mounting evidence strongly suggest two possible alternative sources, both of them arriving through the same people. Could even very easily be that both sources made up the entire sum of both deposits.
 

The mounting evidence strongly suggest two possible alternative sources, both of them arriving through the same people. Could even very easily be that both sources made up the entire sum of both deposits.
GOLD/SILVER Bars & Jewelry...? French Treasury...? Hmmm...
 

There are still those who believe in the story is true as it is told, that a party of 30 adventurers roamed about the wilds of the west until they happened to stumbled upon a natural source of gold and silver of extremely high grade. I'm not sure why people still wish to believe in this fairy tale portion of the story as science and history and chemistry pretty much erases any possible chance that these men mined and refined gold and silver from the alleged Colorado territories, this being especially true in the comparatively short amount of time offered in the tale.

Jewels. Interesting here that a "precious stone" doesn't become a "jewel" until after it is cut. This term used by the author of the ciphers quickly putting to rest any debates that the alleged "jewels" were possibly in the form of rough stones. So if silver was traded "jewels" in St. Louis then these stones would represent cut precious stones... from all that I have researched, there was nobody in St. Louis at the time with the ability to cut precious stones...

You see, science and history pretty much eliminates all chance that the adventure portion of the Beale story is true...
...therefor, Ward's 1885 Beale Papers is a work of fiction, which make the treasure fictitious, and the ciphers a cigar and brandy parlor entertainment.
Ward even had a disclaimer in the Beale Papers: "I would say a word to those who may take an interest in them...if you can spare no time, let the matter alone".
 

To all I present this question:
Did the Beale treasure exist before the publication of the 1885 Beale Papers by Ward, or did it begin its "existence" after the job pamphlets publication?
The 1885 Beale Papers are the ONLY ORIGINAL SOURCE of the existence of the Beale treasure.
 

Did the Beale treasure exist before the publication of the 1885 Beale Papers by Ward, or did it begin its "existence" after the job pamphlets publication?

Well, according to the story in the pamphlet, the answer is, "no." But then again, nobody knows for sure who wrote the pamphlet or if there is any truth to the tale, so who can really say for sure? :laughing7:
 

Well, according to the story in the pamphlet, the answer is, "no." But then again, nobody knows for sure who wrote the pamphlet or if there is any truth to the tale, so who can really say for sure? :laughing7:
Heh... "Beale Treasure" existed in 1865, as the CONFEDERATE WAR CSA Treasury for WESTERN portion of Virginia & VMI; When Prez, TJ wanted a MILITARY INSTITUTE in the WESTERN portion of Virginia... to ENHANCE the PROTECTION of the WESTERN frontier of Virginia against the "Indians"...
 

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