Ancient Greek? Roman? soldier on copper plate?

[Bramblefind]

I found this deep in the ground in my backyard. It was crumpled into a ball and I had to pry it open. Doing so I broke it ...but it was broken anyway.

Any ideas what this could be from? House goes back to the 1880s.

Thanks!

 

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[BioProfessor]

Yep. Not the "Brush" usually associated with the Trojan image.

Daryl

 

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[ipsilateral]

snuff tin or tooth polish tin?

 

[Bramblefind]

Thanks! I'll check into those items..

I wonder if it is supposed to depict Saint George?

And then there's this guy-

http://en.allexperts.com/e/o/or/order_of_the_dragon.htm

 

[Breezie]

Thanks! I'll check into those items..

I wonder if it is supposed to depict Saint George?

And then there's this guy-

http://en.allexperts.com/e/o/or/order_of_the_dragon.htm

Bramble, I think you're onto something with this St. George dude especially since you found the Masonic buckle plate. Maybe it was a decorative part like a sash end worn with the robes for the Order of the Dragons, which may be some distant cousin to the Masons. Breezie

 

[Breezie]

I have looked at a LOT of Trojan logos and none of them are like this. I think it is more of a decorative piece than a company piece. A cap, a pull, and end, etc.

Daryl

Daryl, I bet you have! LOL . . Humor & Knowledge; I love it! Breezie

 

[Bramblefind]

Bramble, I think you're onto something with this St. George dude especially since you found the Masonic buckle plate. Maybe it was a decorative part like a sash end worn with the robes for the Order of the Dragons, which may be some distant cousin to the Masons. Breezie

Yes! I was just starting to work my mind around that connection to the buckle too.

I have studied my house history and I think I know the name of the person who must have owned these items. Fascinating stuff!

From what I am finding.. if he was a Knights Templar then they used the cross of St. George on their flag. Maybe a flag pole end?

 

[Breezie]

Bramble, I think you're onto something with this St. George dude especially since you found the Masonic buckle plate. Maybe it was a decorative part like a sash end worn with the robes for the Order of the Dragons, which may be some distant cousin to the Masons. Breezie

Yes! I was just starting to work my mind around that connection to the buckle too.

I have studied my house history and I think I know the name of the person who must have owned these items. Fascinating stuff!

From what I am finding.. if he was a Knights Templar then they used the cross of St. George on their flag. Maybe a flag pole end?

I just heard someone yell B-I-N-G-O! Whether it is a flag pole end or some type of decorative whatever, it's part of the Knights Templar/St.George ordeal. You nailed it! It could even be part of the end of the Knights Templar dagger/sword or a sheath. I know this one is not like yours, but still the idea is the same. Congrats, Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Bramble, I think you're onto something with this St. George dude especially since you found the Masonic buckle plate. Maybe it was a decorative part like a sash end worn with the robes for the Order of the Dragons, which may be some distant cousin to the Masons. Breezie

Yea I think you are onto something here also with the St. George/dragon thing.

I removed my prior post so as not to clutter.

 

[Breezie]

Bramble, I think you're onto something with this St. George dude especially since you found the Masonic buckle plate. Maybe it was a decorative part like a sash end worn with the robes for the Order of the Dragons, which may be some distant cousin to the Masons. Breezie

Yea I think you are onto something here also with the St. George/dragon thing.

I removed my prior post so as not to clutter.

I did the same thing; good idea. Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I did the same thing; good idea. Breezie

Thanks Breezie. I was accused by another member of backediting (on another thread) so I wanted to let everyone know what I was doing.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks Daryl

Hmm.. not sure if you all picked it up but that thing on the top of the helmet appears to be a little dragon. I can see wings and a curled tail and it has a tongue with a point like an arrowhead.

I notice Minerva also has the dragon on her helmet.

 

[SkyPirate]

Trojan Man!

 

[Bramblefind]

Thanks Daryl

Hmm.. not sure if you all picked it up but that thing on the top of the helmet appears to be a little dragon. I can see wings and a curled tail and it has a tongue with a point like an arrowhead.

I notice Minerva also has the dragon on her helmet.

Hey there! What is that from? That is very close. You know... it crossed my mind a few times when I was searching this that the face could be that of a woman. I even checked out Minerva a bit but I found nothing like what you found.

 

[traderoftreasures]

looks like a bottle cap or something similar

 

[GL]

Bottle top, cut off similar to a wine bottle top.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks Daryl

Hmm.. not sure if you all picked it up but that thing on the top of the helmet appears to be a little dragon. I can see wings and a curled tail and it has a tongue with a point like an arrowhead.

I notice Minerva also has the dragon on her helmet.

Hey there! What is that from? That is very close. You know... it crossed my mind a few times when I was searching this that the face could be that of a woman. I even checked out Minerva a bit but I found nothing like what you found.

Its advertised as a button on eBay, but I lost the link. It may be sold.

 

[Dano Sverige]

" Saint George (ca. 275/281 – 23 April 303) was, according to tradition, a Roman soldier and priest in the Guard of Diocletian, who is venerated as a Christian martyr. In hagiography Saint George is one of the most venerated saints in the Roman Catholic Church, Anglican Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Church, and the Eastern Catholic Churches. He is immortalized in the tale of Saint George and the Dragon and is one of the Fourteen Holy Helpers. His memorial is celebrated on 23 April, and he is regarded as one of the most prominent military saints. "

...Relegated to a "dude" by Breezy! Nice lol.
Just kidding,couldn't resist.

The helmet is the Greek type,so in my opinion will be more of a Greek God thing than St George.BCH's pic is almost exact.