Ancient Aztec/Myan, Spanish, and KGC trail.

Hello Dog hope everything is well. I would love to hear your two cents worth on the little man and the cat my friend. Oh and the other little pointed nose guy. LOL

Great job OTH,Pinewheel,you guys are working it nice.thanks for sharing all the photos and info.,nice stuff.The best thing to me is that you guys see the ancient.spainsh,kgc,to 2014 stuff,your not stuck trying to lump it all as spainish. OTH,It took me a long time to spot the cat,not to good at seeing the hard stuff,but i see it as a wolf,lol. if its aztec,mayan ,then i say its a cat jaguar.i really like that stained cave stuff.id imagine if you dug the floor out and sifted it,it would be full of bones,teeth,beads,flint,tools,fire pits,from thousands of years of use.looks like a guy with head dress.great stuff guys,thanks for sharing it. are you guys any good at dowsing? might want to give it a shot,there pretty light and easy to pack. heres the wolf i see.View attachment 1010632
 

yea Pinwheel,iam sure that that road was just a foot path for thousands of years to that river.maybe you guys will find some fresh water pearls to go with the gold and silver.:thumbsup:
 

Great posting guys some very good things coming to the surface. Dog the treasure hunter the way that wolf is laying there in that pic looks very similar to the one on the wall don't it! Dog you hit the nail on the head about the bones,teeth,flint,etc. You don't even have to dig the floor to find those's thing. The ones that have come before us used this place for thousands of years. Not hundreds but thousands of years. It's just amazing to me how the ones that have come before us lived. You know they had everything that they needed at their fingertips. The flint tools they used were amazing they used antlers for tools, hides for clothes turtle shells for cups etc. These's guys might not have lived as many years as the modern human does now but the life they lived In my opinion was much richer than the life that we live today.
 

Pinwheel:
In these 2 photos, there are a couple of things I spotted.

In the first, that rock lined in yellow does not fit in the notch lined in yellow. I think that rock was placed there by someone. Check the cavity behind it. The two faces outlined in red is a dark man's facing quartering to the left and the one on the right is a woman, looking quartering to the right. She has a "Y" over her right eye and a "P" on her left eye. Her right eye looks closed and the left one looks open. In the blue outline, is a profile of a light-skinned woman with a large hairdo of dark hair. She is facing to the right and slightly downward......right at that yellow lined rock and recess.

In the second photo, the black circle on the right is around what looks like a gorilla face / head with a large "nut" in it's mouth. He's facing mostly to the left. That tall, slim black circle on the left is around a tree that has had some of its outer bark skinned off to form some shapes. Some later group would do that sometimes to leave shapes and symbols by skinning the outer bark off of the inner bark. That way, the shapes would hold their shapes longer and clearer than carving through the inner bark, too. Carving through the inner bark would cause the tree to scar up in that area and create new fiber as the new inner bark forms and "rolls" into and over the scalped areas.

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Shortstack that's some good stuff! The nut is very interesting and the tree bark thing is very cool! I would have never thought twice about the bark on that tree Shortstack!
 

View attachment 1011300 I thought I would show you guys something that my very clever partner Pinwheel has figured out. If you will take a look at the Eights in 1882 you will see that the Eights look like Butterfly's ( which I would have never noticed ). If you will take a look at the other pic you will see that there is a very big and beautiful Butterfly that is on the cliff face.View attachment 1011302 There is another Butterfly on the cliff face also that you can't see in this pic. Very clever my friend!
 

The puma or panther was left as a guardian on entrances. It has been told a great and fierce tribe once ruled a region in South America. They wore the skins of panthers and was feared by all. I cant tell if the panther has been burned or dyed into the wall. The question is when it was put there? Also how did they mark the rock. I suspect you have two entrances as a false entrance was a norm. The panther marks the real entrance. Hope this helps.

It's been said, "the mountain lion guards the sipapu."
 

Pinwheel and OnTheHunt:
For some reason that first photo dropped out in my post #187, just above. I reloaded it and it came back on. Now you can see those 3 faces and that miss matched notch and rock. I forgot to point out that incised triangular shape in the lower right area, that I've circled in yellow.
 

It's been said, "the mountain lion guards the sipapu."
Oh buddy, and the jaugar Guards the temple, but a real Africa lookin lion guards something I can't talk about. :headbang:
 

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Thanks Dog the Treasure Hunter and Shortstack. You guys have good eyes.

The Hike up from the River up the canyon is not a long one but is kinda steep. This old man needed two walking sticks. It was hard to talk about the trail and climb it at the same time. As the trail began to level out into bench an awe came over me. It was easy to feel the presents of something really ancient. I have never seen such monuments. Breathtaking is all I can say. I was trying to go slow so i could take it all in but the enthusiasm was more than I could control. I found myself running from monument to monument Just trying to see it all. Let me back up. As I came up on the plateau this was one of the first monuments I saw.

This is what i call a crouching puma. As you can see it is loaded with information. Of course this Puma alone helps identify the few possible cultures. It has 3 hoyos. you can only see one from this view.
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From this vista looking through the hoyo we see the next monument.
From this view it is a turtle with legs on its right side only.
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The turtle is looking straight ahead at the next monumet.
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This fellow is looking right back at the turtle, so the turtle has no legs on his left side. Means 90* left. Looking in that direction we see this rock.
I could use your opinion on this monument, I still am not sure what it is. So All opinions welcome.

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Because we could not make out what this monument is we climbed the ridge behind it to get a top side view. Yep. I needed 3 walking sticks to get to the top of that one.

More to come.
Pinwheel
 

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Springfield & Kanabite thank you guys for that information! Springfield that is some very intriguing information that you have brought to my attention.
 

Pinwheel:
In that first photo, with the hoyo, look at that stack of stone, just to the left of that tree.....left foreground. The top is the crushed skull of a human. You can see his eyes and most of his nose. It is stacked on top of a gorilla head.

In the second photo, the entire left half of the turtle shell is the head of a lion, facing to the left.

In the third photo, in the lower right corner area......there's the ancient carving of a gorilla face or old human. You can see the mouth slit with a cleft chin just below. You can also tell the nose area just above the mouth slit.

In the fourth photo, I believe the carver is showing how a bear comes out of his den at the end of the hibernation period. If you take that large, raised area that travels from the rear to the front lower edge, as you're looking at the pic, to represent the lip of the cave opening and the left half as the ground. That right half sure looks like a bear, moving toward the right.
 

2014-04-12 17.31.31.jpg Hello Shortstack here is a different angle of those's stacked stones you were speaking of. Your interpretation of the bear in the forth photo is very impressive my friend. I think this photo my represent the same thing Shortstack.2014-04-12 17.41.24.jpg Speaking of a Gorillas face this sure looks like one to me to Shortstack.2014-04-12 17.40.29.jpg
 

Hey OTH. You really captured a lot in those pic you posted. Those rocks in the milllde left of the frame has bird on it. Also a shadow symbol of a bird. That gorilla/ape in the second pic is awesome. It takes a really good eye to spot those symbols that are so vague. The whole monument is making sense now.

It's not what you see. It is what you don't see is what matters.

pinwheel
 

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face.JPG Took a walk today, seen more things. If any picture belonged here, this one does. I like the hearts the best.
 

OTH:
In the first photo, above, that looks like a snake head, circled in yellow, coming out of a large helmet shape. Circled in red is a box with lid. At least that's what it looks like. and on the right, I've circled in blue what looks like a pipe of some kind. It probably isn't, but at this angle and view, it does here. That black box is around a shape that looks like an upside down "U" with a dot in the middle.

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In the second photo, I think there are 3 faces. The 2 on the large boulder are separated with red and yellow circles and the third one is in the rear, circled in black.

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Casca:
Your photo also has a very nice profile of a Roman soldier, complete with helmet that has a metal strap coming down along the jaw line and around the chin. It' at the top, center of the mount. There's another one at the bottom on the right side, by that bush, that looks like a helmeted head, but maybe not Roman.

Over on the left edge of the photo, a little below the center,is a free standing rock that could cause some serious injury if it has a trigger mechanism.


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