Anchor buttons questions

[kuger]

A good buddy of mine recently dug these buttons,I cant find anything about what they may be?One Texas Navy Button I seen on the web looked similiar but not exact.Any ideas??He also found a Marine button nearby?

 

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[Breezie]

Anything embossed on the back? Can you post pics of the back? Breezie

 

[johnnyi]

The first anchor button might be British, but the flukes are slightly different (it isn't U.S.). The anchor with star is somewhat similar to what Tice and Albert list as a Texas Navy button, except your friend's doesn't include the motto and the star is smaller.

 

[kuger]

Breezie,I didnt get pics of the back of the Oval Anchor but as Johnny said Ironman also thinks its British.The Star button back mark although I could not read is below

 

[johnnyi]

Kugar, it's good to see the backmark. Although it's not listed, some of the Texas buttons of the Confederacy were supplied by Paris manufacturers. I'll have to do some more searching to see if this manufacturer can be identified.

 

[Tin Nugget]

This might help
http://pw1.netcom.com/~jimyce/bm.html#A

 

[PBK]

The backmark appears to be "T. W. & W. / PARIS" — Trelon, Weldon & Weil, c. 1850's. Some sources cite a wider date range of 1844-1865.

 

[kuger]

HMMM,thanks,1850 fits the site,1860's......could it be Confederate Navy of some sort?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/navy buttons.htm

This is the closest match I see but would like to see the back.

ADDED: Is your first oval anchor button one or two piece?

 

[Sofaman36]

It looks to me to be a Civil War, or pre Civil War, era navy button. Not 100% sure, but my best guess!

 

[CRUSADER]

The backmark appears to be "T. W. & W. / PARIS" — Trelon, Weldon & Weil, c. 1850's. Some sources cite a wider date range of 1844-1865.

Thats good, but is it Civvy or Military? My gut is Civvy Fashion, no evidence on this so might be wrong.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Heres a link for Paris backmarks if anyone wants to save it, however it is missing this one that PBK Ided or the link is not correct... They list Trelon, Weldon & Weil as T.W.W. Its hard to tell by the pic.
http://www.buttoncountry.com/ParisBackData.htm

 

[kuger]

KEEP TRYING!I APPRECIATE IT.

 

[CRUSADER]

KEEP TRYING!I APPRECIATE IT.

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/navy buttons.htm

Look at the above British examples, note that its an almost exact match for a 'RN Capt / Commander - 1787', however these are 1 piece & produced many years previous to the 2 piece pictured. By the mid 19th century the design had changed. That to me, screams Civvy. Unless a foriegn Navy was coping our early design

 

[kuger]

RIGHT,I AM PRETTY SURE THE OVAL ONE IS BRITISH,BUT THE ONE WITH THE STAR ABOVE THE ANCHOR HAS ME BAFFLED.THE TEXAS NAVY BUTTONS ARE VERY SIMILIAR,HOWEVER THEY ALMOST ALL HAVE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS

 

[CRUSADER]

RIGHT,I AM PRETTY SURE THE OVAL ONE IS BRITISH,BUT THE ONE WITH THE STAR ABOVE THE ANCHOR HAS ME BAFFLED.THE TEXAS NAVY BUTTONS ARE VERY SIMILIAR,HOWEVER THEY ALMOST ALL HAVE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS

British, but not Navy

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Try to post a pic of the British anchor button back because I am getting confused as to which button we are referring to. Also is this British (1st button) one or two piece?

 

[CRUSADER]

Try to post a pic of the British anchor button back because I am getting confused as to which button we are referring to. Also is this British (1st button) one or two piece?

good question, I assumed 2, if a 1 then it is a 18th C British Navy 8)

 

[kuger]

Thanks Guys,I unfortunatly cant get a pic until next weekend,but I didnt take a pic because it was not cleaned and my friend is weird about cleaning stuff I am most curious about the button with the Anchor and Star

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks Guys,I unfortunatly cant get a pic until next weekend,but I didnt take a pic because it was not cleaned and my friend is weird about cleaning stuff I am most curious about the button with the Anchor and Star

Are you sure the backmark says T. W. & W. * PARIS * exactly? There are variations such as T.W.W. or T.W.& W. H.M.
and its hard to see. (see Paris backmark link)