almost bitten

[Kut2TheChase]

So I look on an old map and find out there used to be a train station from the 1800's, closed in 1946, in the town I grew up in that I remember as a small triangle patch of trees and overgrowth. Great! A place to detect.
So I get there and right away, my battery is dead so I decide to just check out the site visually and there's a couple of badly worn and corroded pennies just on the surface by the biggest oaks. I go alittle farther into the wooded area and Im digging around an old tree and I hear a russle in the bushes on my right and what do I see?
A PitBull coming right at me! Talk about going from 0 to 90 in .23 seconds! I jump up with my new shiny, sharp digger and take off around the tree and those nature channels sure help 'cause I remembered that if I run, the dog will see me as fleeing prey and chase, so I stop dead and turn around to face this beast with digger in hand and tell it, "I WILL stab you with this"!
The dog stops short and it's a classic stand off in the middle of a huge city, in a small wooded patch all of 30 feet, noone can see me, just me, the pit and nature and Im thinking "this is it", of all the places, Im going to get into a fight to the death in the neighborhood park. I am shaking and we are looking at each other eye to eye. Im trying my best not to look scared and I hear off in the distance.."Jamie!, bad dog, where are you?"
THANK GOD the dogs ears perked back and he seemed to come to his senses and realized he was doing something wrong. He sniffed the ground and walk a circle around me and ran off!
Shaken, I popped outta the woods and left with a few pennies, a plastic button and all of my body parts intact.
This hobby can sure be an adventure. I think Im going to look into some kind of dog repellent or pepperspray the next time I go into any woods after some treasure.

 

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[trikikiwi]

I agree and symathize with anyone ever confronted by an uncontrolled dog.
I attach a link from our local 2003 news. This incident sparked a lot of argument here - also check out the 'related links' - things were out of hand!! It hasn't really changed much in 4 years. We've had more tragic deaths of people by uncontrolled dogs in the meantime.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/423466/166754

At the same time, there are many responsible dog 'owners' around, like me.

Cheers, Mike

 

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[bearbqd]

Negligent dog owners burn me up too. I already had one neighbor's dog taken away that kept jumping the fence and going after people. Now my wife is contending with the neighbors across the street. They already had a small shepherd that runs around their yard loose. Fortunately it pretty much stays in their yard. But now they have also gotten some little poodle type rat dog. My wife got out of her Jeep the other day and here comes the rat barking "fiercely" at her. The owner just calmly started walking that way calling the dog. My wife said "Dog, if you bite me, I'll drop kick your a** across the street". The owner goes "she would deserve it too". The rat then ignores the owner and takes off across my yard. Meanwhile my wife is telling the woman "you DO know there is a leash law right?" She replied in a snide little voice "I knowww". Unfortunately I'm still in Iraq or I would get this dog taken away too. Let it charge me when I get home. I WILL send it sailing down the street. I have about 20 dogs total in the houses surrounding mine. Good lord I can't wait to get some land and move outta there.

 

[Skrimpy]

Get the foam pepper spray. It foams up on contanct and they start rubbing it to get it off and it just pushes it further into their eyes. A guy I know had a pit bull trying to get into his house (it chased his father in-law up to the house). He grabbed his spary, cracked the door and got him in the eyes. He laughed for an hour about how the dog cried and carried on trying to rub the foam off on the ground. The owner had to get a hose and rinse the dogs face off. The dog was no worse for the wear.

 

[TreasureTales]

Too bad the owner didn't get a little of the spray in his face, too. Irresponsible people make me sick.

 

[Dick from IA]

Get the foam pepper spray. It foams up on contanct and they start rubbing it to get it off and it just pushes it further into their eyes.

Makes a lot of sense, Skrimpy!
Where can I buy some??

 

[landlord]

shovel to head i say,good day

 

[M-Squared]

From the great deal of responses and strong opinions in regard to this matter, I suggest that we construct a user guide or some form of training manual specifically geared for us Metal Detector enthusiasts that we can utilize in such an unfortunate event.

Oh! ...and another one pertaining on how to handle potentially hostile conditions such as confrontation by gangs, vagrants and appropriate responses to police officer challenges.

Any volunteers from TNet members?

HH from M2

 

[halfdime]

Ever seen those small cans of wasp and hornet spray that shoot a stream for 30 feet? Well that is what my grandmother always carried on her walks. It WILL stop a raging pit bull. YES it is very damaging, but so are the vice-like jaws of a primitive pit bull. If you feel bad about blinding a worthless dog while protecting yourself then finish it off with your spade while it is blindly rubbing its face on the ground. While your adrenaline is still pumping look around for the real guilty party, the irresponsible owner. Maybe they will threaten you from 30' away as well and you can further make the world a better place to live. Then look forward to a satisfying sleep that night knowing that you made a difference.

RW, don't hold back!

 

[reskinsrock]

To Rudy

Pitbulls are not naturally agressive, they recieve either their traits from their parents or the people who own them. I know many sweet pitbulls, one who is conveniently named Angel. Unfortunately, mankind is cruel to animals and force them to be mean. And no I am not a treehugger.
k.k.

 

[bearbqd]

Did you guys read about the poor lady who had her throat ripped out by her own dog recently? It wasn't a pitbull or a Rot. I forget what it was, but it wasn't a breed that's known to be aggressive.

 

[TreasureTales]

My apologies to those I upset with my post wherein I stated I would let a canine rip my belly open. Sometimes the absurdity in my humor is taken seriously, apparently.

I'll keep on eye on that.

Q

Thank goodness you were only joking. I am relieved to know you have the will to survive like all living things.

 

[lonesomebob]

I recently had a young german shepard bitch ,jumpedfor my face,fortunately my hands were free, I grabbed her throat and hung on, the owner had to peel my hands away, the dog died even with mouth to snout resuscitation tried. The owner ,a friend , said OH I forgot to tell you we had a new dog Bob

 

[bearbqd]

The owner ,a friend , said OH I forgot to tell you we had a new dog Bob

I guess not anymore huh? wow

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Ok.. just cause this sort of fits the topic. I was hunting a few old house site in VA and ran into the caretakers for the property. They are both avid hunters and were driving up to the old house site when I ran into them. The back of the pickup truck was "full" of all the leftovers for a dozen of so deer they had taken that year. They told me they dump the carcasses for the bear up on the mountain. I laughed and they said "No, really.. up by that old house".. So when I get up there I see hundreds of bones all over the place. Most of them had been broken up into little pieces. So.. this was a great site to hunt.. lots of coins.. buttons and a few Civil War plates had been found there over the years. So, the next time I go. I strap on my 9mm and figure if I run into a bear the noise alone should scare them off. It was pretty windy that day and branches were falling off the tress every now and again. I was in one of the old yards which is now grown up with a lot of small saplings when all of a sudden there was this huge crash right behind me. I spun around expected to see a bear standing right behind me and as I did a twig from on of the saplings poked me right in the side of the eyeball. I let out a blood curdling scream and hit the ground! I am rolling around in freaking agony and can't see a thing!! I ended up actually having to pull a tiny piece of the twig from out of my eyeball itself!! So much for standing my ground with a freaking 9mm!!! I broke down two days latter and went to the eye doctors and had nasty scratch and puncture in my eye that took a couple of weeks to heal. Long story short.. if it had been a bear looking of a meal.. I would have been it!!! Also, I usually wear safety glasses from my workshop when I hunt in the woods now!!!

The next best "scare the crap" out of me story is when I was digging a hole at the base of a stone wall, on the same mountain, and dug up a copperhead coiled up about 8" in the ground. It was a rather warm day in winter but he never had a chance!!

OK.. last one!! This past winter/late spring I was MD'ing one day and had taken a break. I was sitting on a big rock smoking a cig when the leaves a few feet from me started "popping up" I sat there and watched a box turtle dig him self out. Having spent many years camping and hiking during all seasons.. that was the first time I ever saw that. It was actually pretty cool. It took him about 20 minutes to get out of the hole.. he took maybe 4 steps and then just pulled his head in and sat there.. he was still sitting in the same spot a few hours later when I came back through.. trying to warm up I assume.

 

[artemis moon]

Re: almost bitten-an amphibian tale

Last spring, I was out with the family walking in our neighborhood after a rainy period. We came across the biggest turtle I have ever seen outside of a zoo..it must have weighed 20 lbs. and it was right smack dab in the middle of the street. My husband, good samaritan that he is, tried to gently nudge the turtle off the road and into the wetland that it must have came from. Well, Mr. Turtle was having no part of that. He actually opened his mouth and hissed before latching onto hubby's shoe and would not let go. The kids and I watched and tried not to laugh-it was'nt easy though. Eventually, we were able to pry the turtle off of my husband's foot, which was pretty badly bruised. We left our new friend right where we found him-figured he was large enough that vehicles would be able to see him and avoid him. Didn't think that mild-mannered turtles could be that aggressive - it's a good thing that they can be outrun

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I can vouch for the eyeball trick if you want to disable an opponent. Last year I was rigging a temporary light to do some plumbing in a dark corner of the cellar. I looped a wire over a pipe to hang the trouble light, and as I pulled it back around it got away from me and sprang back around. Jabbing me in the left eye and scratching the inside lower eye lid. HO-KEY-SMOKES! I couldn't open either eye. Pain, flowing tears, snot, you name it. Not bawling, just uncontrollable eye watering. Luckily, no eye damage.

Two months later I was putting up chickenwire and hit a staple sideways. It richochetted off a wall beside me and poked into my RIGHT eye! Double Ho-Key Smokes!! This one did puncture the eye - 3mm wide jab. Seems tiny, but absolutely floored me. Had to wear a medicated contact lens "bandage" for a month, but Oooooo it felt so nice when it was fit to my eye. It's been over a year and I still am using an eye salve at night. A few times I would be asleep after the medicated lens was removed and the tear "healed" to the inner eyelid. When I woke up and opened my eyes. OUCH! OUCH! OUCH! Tears and snot city once again. "Chronic Abrasive Syndrome" Avoid it if possible.

I wear glasses and in both cases it was an end-around-run that got me. From the top and then from the side.

Back to the doggies. My neighbors have two pit bulls (American Staffordshire Terriers). Homer and Lucy. I babysit for them (entering their house to feed/"out" them) and they are pussycats. They have been brought up as friendly pets and behave accordingly. Though, I wouldn't break into that house and act aggressively towards them. My own dog is a Kerry Blue Terrier. Reputed as a breed to be extremely dog aggressive. Irish poachers relied on them to protect them and dispatch the Irish Wolfhounds of the landed gentry quietly. Approximately the same build as a pit bull but taller and thinner (and faster). He will absolutely not back down from another dog (and few humans) and this can lead to problems. Always head and tail up and "coiled". He's also very well trained (We both graduated two professional obedience schools) and very well socialized with humans, other dogs and smaller animals. We have five cats, three goats, five turkeys, 25 chickens and he plays gently enough with them that we still have them all and not scraps of fur and feathers.

Just don't offer Jake a ferret to play with. Or a squirrel, chipmunk . . . things in the rodent family.

I have met KBTs that were raised in the "Irish" tradition and they are every bit as aggressive and fierce as pit bulls - without the warning barks. They are silent killers. Scary. Up unto 1972 to be a champion a KBT had to kill a badger (in the den) that outweighed the dog before it was one year old.

In a dog/human encounter that is bad it is always the owner's fault. Always. The dog is a dog, not a little person. if you understand dog behavior you must control the dog, restrain the dog or confine it. All the obligations of the owner. Just because he recognizes you as the alpha and your family as his pack does not mean he can run loose and behave properly in your absense or with strangers.

 

[stefen]

Wow!

Please note that a Lesche digging tool used as a defense mechanism is very appropriate for such an occasion.


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(1) Step one: Withdraw tool from holster.
(2) Step two: Maneuver tool between subject and pitbull.
(3) Step three: Administer verbal warning to pitbull (if time permits)
(4) Step four: Thrust edge of tool at neck area of pitbull while keeping other body parts away from jaws (if possible)
(5) Step five: Use digging tool to bury carcass.
(6) Step six: Notify owner (optional)
(7) Step seven: Soiled Clothes: Machine wash warm (colors) or hot (white) with the laundry detergent of choice. Tumble dry.

Order of steps are vital to your success. Practice until you demonstrate good form...




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HH from M2

Forgot number 8...clean the skid marks out of your chonies

 

[M-Squared]

Wow!

Please note that a Lesche digging tool used as a defense mechanism is very appropriate for such an occasion.


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(1) Step one: Withdraw tool from holster.
(2) Step two: Maneuver tool between subject and pitbull.
(3) Step three: Administer verbal warning to pitbull (if time permits)
(4) Step four: Thrust edge of tool at neck area of pitbull while keeping other body parts away from jaws (if possible)
(5) Step five: Use digging tool to bury carcass.
(6) Step six: Notify owner (optional)
(7) Step seven: Soiled Clothes: Machine wash warm (colors) or hot (white) with the laundry detergent of choice. Tumble dry.

Order of steps are vital to your success. Practice until you demonstrate good form...




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HH from M2

Forgot number 8...clean the skid marks out of your chonies

Please refer to step 7. I didn't want to be too explicit in terms of why the clothes were "soiled".

Good one!

HH from M2

 

[stefen]

Not a funny story, however a few years back my brother was walking into my back yard carrying a chain saw with a 36 inch bar, when my A-Hole brother-in-law had his not too well trained pit bull with him...

Anyway, as my brother walked thru the gate, the dog charged and was in mid air when he encountered a chain saw crushing his f'ing head...

The only good pit bull is a dead piot bull...

and any dog that decides to cold-nose me in my plumbers butt had better run for its life...because I will coldcock it with anything at hand...

And yes, I do carry when in uncharted territory...