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caused me to reassess my normal manner of being willing to help anyone in need . Staunch supporters of the Constitution are welcome at my fire . The rest need not seek relief at my door if bad times come . If I spoke as directly as I wish the Moderators would have no choice in having to give me time out for violating the rules . Many posting here have crossed my line .
 

That is sad that it really does have to be that way truckin,i agree.Family first,compatriots second.Mostly depending on the situation.
 

Hey Truckin' ain't it the truth!!!!! EXCEPT I think you are wrong....It is not "if" 'bad times comes"' but rather WHEN they get here!!! I could go on and on but you, Red James and a few others know what I'd say!!! GODS, GUNS & GUTS made this COUNTRY FREE...I'll KEEP all THREE you can keep the CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!
 

Hey Truckin' ain't it the truth!!!!! EXCEPT I think you are wrong....It is not "if" 'bad times comes"' but rather WHEN they get here!!! I could go on and on but you, Red James and a few others know what I'd say!!! GODS, GUNS & GUTS made this COUNTRY FREE...I'll KEEP all THREE you can keep the CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!
I was trying to be nice when I said if . Some of the idiocy I've seen displayed here has cranked me to the point of shouting a major FU! at a few people even if it got me banned or given time out .
That's a bad thing on my part . When you lose control to emotion the mission focus is lost and the battle goes where the opforce leads it .
 

I agree with you.. But some people just don't get it an probably never will.. Hey I for one am not going to let myself or any other 2nd amendment supporter be disarmed.. Most people think that it will be no big deal.. But to them I say this do you really want to live in a country where you have no means to protect yourself not only from crimminals but your own government.. That is a scrary thought that the only protection you will be afforded is what they see needed.. What a joke that would be.. Not this guy me and my matching bushmasters will protect me and my family and any other person brave enough to tell them to get bent if they try to take my firearms away..
 

I had conversations with a couple family members over the last couple of weeks . To say the least , it did not go well . I rattled off fact after fact and they were completely clueless . Even when asked if they knew who Dianne F***stien was or the 23 Executive Orders from Obomination . Please understand , I come from a hunting heritage family . I realize many people , including myself , HATE politics . But , when EVIL is knocking on your door , burying your head in the sand is NOT an option . Yes , I will open my door if family asks . I promise I won't even say ( I told you so ) .
 

My guns are not nor ever will be illegal, under current adminstration guidelines they are legal "undocumented residents" in my home...
 

What government official has discussed repealing the 2nd and taking away everyone's guns. I guess I've missed that press release. Plenty of talk about this from right wing websites, but have not seen the actual administration comments or actions they are referencing?
 

Geez, Google Diane Feistein and current gun proposals.

I am against limiting magazines to 10, 20 or any shots, against registering my guns, against outlawing AR-15 and the others they are after. Continue to chip away at a right it will cease to exist, its not rocket science...
 

Treasure_Hunter said:
Geez, Google Diane Feistein and current gun proposals.

I am against limiting magazines to 10, 20 or any shots, against registering my guns, against outlawing AR-15 and the others they are after. Continue to chip away at a right it will cease to exist, its not rocket science...

I did and I didn't see a single quote out of her or Obama saying that they are out to repeal the second amendment. Controls, limitations, checks, yes. Plenty of gun advocates proposing some level of controls an checks also.

Chipping away? Sliding down the slippery slope to FEMA camps? When the federal assault weapons ban was passed and enacted into constitutional law of the land did that lead to a quick loss of rights and repeal of the second? I do nth think so. Matter of fact just the opposite - they expired and everything was fine. Gun owners have seen dozens and dozens and dozens of gun control laws. And is anyone feeling deprived or repressed right now.
 

Treasure_Hunter said:
Geez, Google Diane Feistein and current gun proposals.

I am against limiting magazines to 10, 20 or any shots, against registering my guns, against outlawing AR-15 and the others they are after. Continue to chip away at a right it will cease to exist, its not rocket science...

Did you believe that the federal assault weapons ban was unconstitutional?
 

I do not believe any weapon that is semi-automatic is an assault weapon. Assault weapon is a term used by liberals to justify gun control...For the record I was opposed to it then, an armed society is a polite society.

People should not fear the government, the government should fear the people, only then are we free.....

When the Henry and Winchester repeating rifles came out were they banned by the government as assault weapons, no they were readily sold to the citizens as the best way to protect their selves from evil.
 

Treasure_Hunter said:
I do not believe any weapon that is semi-automatic is an assault weapon. Assault weapon is a term used by liberals to justify gun control...For the record I was opposed to it then, an armed society is a polite society.

People should not fear the government, the government should fear the people, only then are we free.....

When the Henry and Winchester repeating rifles came out were they banned by the government as assault weapons, no they were readily sold to the citizens as the best way to protect their selves from evil.

Glad you asked. Everything has a definition. This is the LEGAL definition of assault weapon as it relates to the law. Should hopefully put to rest some of the previous discussions. But I didn't read if you thought the federal assault weapons ban was unconstitutional?? Yes / No ?

Criteria of an assault weapon

The term assault weapon, when used in the context of assault-weapon laws, refers primarily (but not exclusively) to semi-automatic firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic. Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from assault weapons to Title II weapons. Merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again. They do not fire automatically like a machine gun. Rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.
 

:sign10:quoted from Wikipedia.:sign10:

You forgot to add this part stockpicker in or you didnt see it.

The neutrality of this article is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. (January 2013)
 

Red James cash said:
:sign10:quoted from Wikipedia.:sign10:

You forgot to add this part stockpicker in or you didnt see it.

The neutrality of this article is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. (January 2013)

Actually I just posted the definition of what the law considered to be assault weapons. So absolutely no political content. I can get the same definition off a hundred different legal pages, etc. it's just a definition
 

Glad you asked. Everything has a definition. This is the LEGAL definition of assault weapon as it relates to the law. Should hopefully put to rest some of the previous discussions. But I didn't read if you thought the federal assault weapons ban was unconstitutional?? Yes / No ?

Criteria of an assault weapon

The term assault weapon, when used in the context of assault-weapon laws, refers primarily (but not exclusively) to semi-automatic firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic. Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from assault weapons to Title II weapons. Merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again. They do not fire automatically like a machine gun. Rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.

Sir, I assure, quite seriously, I have no idea what the heck you just said. However I did recognize the word "Tech-9." I heard those words in a rap album...gots to get me one of them, Tech-9s are gangsta.
 

Glad you asked. Everything has a definition. This is the LEGAL definition of assault weapon as it relates to the law. Should hopefully put to rest some of the previous discussions. But I didn't read if you thought the federal assault weapons ban was unconstitutional?? Yes / No ?

Criteria of an assault weapon

The term assault weapon, when used in the context of assault-weapon laws, refers primarily (but not exclusively) to semi-automatic firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic. Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from assault weapons to Title II weapons. Merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again. They do not fire automatically like a machine gun. Rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine.

What you have written is one page knowing how these guy's work the same definitions will be thousands of pages long. A simple word change will be hard to find. 3rd line from the bottom take grip out and put the letter A in front of pistol. Don't believe me (We must pass it so we can read it)...Sound familiar? Funny how they have us continually talking this subject while Rome burns around us. Debt???? who cares.
 

Don't disagree fire - we got much bigger issues to deal with. But no denying that many a folk love their guns!!
 

I do not believe any weapon that is semi-automatic is an assault weapon. Assault weapon is a term used by liberals to justify gun control...For the record I was opposed to it then, an armed society is a polite society.

People should not fear the government, the government should fear the people, only then are we free.....

When the Henry and Winchester repeating rifles came out were they banned by the government as assault weapons, no they were readily sold to the citizens as the best way to protect their selves from evil.

I did reply, you just overlooked it. YES I believe it was against the Constitution................As I said already, I am against any infringement of our rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, including the ones you threw in the garbage, the 5th, 6th and 8th the "rule of Law" on another thread...

How does making a "cosmetic feature" change to a gun make it an Assault Weapon, that is asinine...

Adding a pistol grip to a shotgun or rifle does not make it fire faster or more shots. Adding a pistol grip to a 22 does nothing to the amount of bullets it fires..........I don't care how many Liberal web posting you post, most of the writters of them have never held a gun much less fired one......Everyone of my friends (90+ % of my friends are gun owners) feel the same way as I do about it.....


Unfortunately this country is full of educated fools, including one of my brothers.......
 

TH, as far as educated fools go, the leftists are mostly uneducated on the issue of gun control........or just plain control freaks!
 

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