AlexanderHun
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- Apr 15, 2012
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- All Treasure Hunting
Hello! This finding occurred in 2010, I thought to share with you.
BACKGROUND:
On 26 November 1944, P-38 aircraft were low and Csákvári Seregélyes attack against the airport. The attackers stationed in Italy rhyolite 14th Fighter Group, 49 century of machines. According to reports, the four aircraft that day was their loss. Of which of the four, two with crash location has been identified previously, both drivers died. The other two aircraft crashed south of Seregélyestől one of the German pilots were captured. The last machine was hit and burning engine trying to escape. The pilot requested assistance from a machine with aloof to accompany. The attendant said that the damaged aircraft steadily lost altitude and north of Szekesfehervar, slammed into the ground at a flat angle.
Pilot, George W. Lieutenant Baird, Jr. (ID Number: -823240 O), died at the scene. The machine "P-38 L" type, Serial Number: 44-24078. "LADY LORRAINE ll." Was named. The lieutenant of the military cemetery are buried in Ardennes, Belgium. (Ardennes American Military Cemetery U.S.). "D" site, the third 0.16-inch row crying. The body is waiting for the rescue of the circumstances of information from the United States.
THE GROUP:
I must say a few words about the dear fellow members about who this does not help accomplish everyday tasks and work, experience, selfless without their help did not really have succeeded.
The work was carried out coordinated Ozsvát friend Zoli, he took up the threads of the fieldwork and personal experience came in handy. We received invaluable help from expert superior American aircraft, mossy Nánditól. The first piece of armor immediately identified the type of machine, and the findings are very many parts discovered during excavation. Complete with all the information regarding acquired exceptional skills, complemented by an extensive relationship with, it was really a great help. I firmly believe that this topic is not he better prepared person in Hungary we can find it. "Detector" Member Co, (my friend Alex) has also been essential, extraordinary perseverance dug and stalked to the area in search of new finds, nothing escaped his attention. Sanyi due to a friend's father managed to secure the artifacts transported and disposed of. Therefore, special thanks to Zoltan Somos and improved Mr. Louis, who "external mouths" (but not as a layman ...), solved the logistical problems. Without great care would have been enough to 150-200 kg body dispatch from the field. The find backup documentation (photography, video), thanks to Zoltan Kiss, who has participated in a large-scale roncsfeltárásban, careful, conscientious work is wasted due to these memories. It was uplifting to see that this is a mixed team (many people are now met for the first time), so enthusiastic, worked in conjunction with the noble aim. When working with new friendships were laying the foundation for future successful cooperation. As long as there are people in this country who have their heart and soul into them so selflessly give of such work will not be lost in the wreck of domestic research issues ... Thank you all!
The exploration and findings:
The band lay in a forest machine, dense undergrowth covered, gently sloping area. The first study found occasion the subject of a 20mm cannon shells sleeve was watching this piece on NAND, and has initiated the research.
As soon as the scene for the second time for us and we started the fieldwork, I immediately recognized an armor plate, which is probable type of airplane that the vagina is already implied. A lot of very small metallic pieces of a larger piece of the instrument indicated. Alex began to dig and Nanda, Zoli was cleaning a small shovel with care. Almost a full day of work, after careful emerged from the cockpit floor, the bottom looking up. The floor plate of the right wing side stood a substantial piece neck and the back of the cab drop shaped. The cab is about. the pilot's feet broke, it was becoming clear that the beginning of burning, molten aluminum flowed in many places in the floor plate into slots. The cab hydraulic output tubes, cylinders, and a part of the engine wiring harness going to be much left in the conduit, interesting to see the more than 65-year-old wiring harness. Control cable routing and also vezetőgörgőik are in perfect condition, nicely factory codes are shown. The aluminum pipes, fittings, manifolds and other components are really nice, injury-free, and even a hydraulic hose blue-yellow-blue color code you can see, a lot of the paint is very nice component.
During this work it became clear that the wreck is not intact, you probably threw it in a hole in the larger pieces, as there were any components that are located away from the machine, and a very high concentration found them. For this reason, the location of objects was not examined in detail, since the circumstances of the crash did not contain any relevant information. We found, however, a disk that was a small caliber projectiles lyuggattak over this fact for the time being we have not found an explanation. The wreck artifacts around the field very much, and took part in an interesting and sometimes surprisingly beautiful and sometimes quite all bruised condition. Probably the most beautiful piece of the government forces used to compensate offset, from which two pieces. was the rear horizontal control surfaces facing each other. It comes to the cockpit hágcsója a blade antenna to the trunk port connecting point of the shielded cable to the cab roof frames, photo machine gun parts, 20mm and 12.7mm bushings, mounting opening frames, liquid level sensor, a lot of nice fresh tube clamps, fuel tank sealing rubber cylinders rubber and metal pipes, and yet unidentified components in weight, plenty of power and motor parts, many pieces of identification numbers.
For now we are beginning to work, as there are objects in front of us cleaning, upkeep possible, to prepare for the exhibition. Specifically, exhibitions, because we plan to successively two sites will be where you will be seen in the machinery and parts. Everything that this remarkable monument more interested in military history to be viewed. During and after the treatment found interesting details, the fate of the wreck, and that where and when it will be seen constantly informed you.
2010, April-May
The pilot ladder onset
during excavation
The text is a translation program made ​​any errors, please apologize.
BACKGROUND:
On 26 November 1944, P-38 aircraft were low and Csákvári Seregélyes attack against the airport. The attackers stationed in Italy rhyolite 14th Fighter Group, 49 century of machines. According to reports, the four aircraft that day was their loss. Of which of the four, two with crash location has been identified previously, both drivers died. The other two aircraft crashed south of Seregélyestől one of the German pilots were captured. The last machine was hit and burning engine trying to escape. The pilot requested assistance from a machine with aloof to accompany. The attendant said that the damaged aircraft steadily lost altitude and north of Szekesfehervar, slammed into the ground at a flat angle.
Pilot, George W. Lieutenant Baird, Jr. (ID Number: -823240 O), died at the scene. The machine "P-38 L" type, Serial Number: 44-24078. "LADY LORRAINE ll." Was named. The lieutenant of the military cemetery are buried in Ardennes, Belgium. (Ardennes American Military Cemetery U.S.). "D" site, the third 0.16-inch row crying. The body is waiting for the rescue of the circumstances of information from the United States.
THE GROUP:
I must say a few words about the dear fellow members about who this does not help accomplish everyday tasks and work, experience, selfless without their help did not really have succeeded.
The work was carried out coordinated Ozsvát friend Zoli, he took up the threads of the fieldwork and personal experience came in handy. We received invaluable help from expert superior American aircraft, mossy Nánditól. The first piece of armor immediately identified the type of machine, and the findings are very many parts discovered during excavation. Complete with all the information regarding acquired exceptional skills, complemented by an extensive relationship with, it was really a great help. I firmly believe that this topic is not he better prepared person in Hungary we can find it. "Detector" Member Co, (my friend Alex) has also been essential, extraordinary perseverance dug and stalked to the area in search of new finds, nothing escaped his attention. Sanyi due to a friend's father managed to secure the artifacts transported and disposed of. Therefore, special thanks to Zoltan Somos and improved Mr. Louis, who "external mouths" (but not as a layman ...), solved the logistical problems. Without great care would have been enough to 150-200 kg body dispatch from the field. The find backup documentation (photography, video), thanks to Zoltan Kiss, who has participated in a large-scale roncsfeltárásban, careful, conscientious work is wasted due to these memories. It was uplifting to see that this is a mixed team (many people are now met for the first time), so enthusiastic, worked in conjunction with the noble aim. When working with new friendships were laying the foundation for future successful cooperation. As long as there are people in this country who have their heart and soul into them so selflessly give of such work will not be lost in the wreck of domestic research issues ... Thank you all!
The exploration and findings:
The band lay in a forest machine, dense undergrowth covered, gently sloping area. The first study found occasion the subject of a 20mm cannon shells sleeve was watching this piece on NAND, and has initiated the research.
As soon as the scene for the second time for us and we started the fieldwork, I immediately recognized an armor plate, which is probable type of airplane that the vagina is already implied. A lot of very small metallic pieces of a larger piece of the instrument indicated. Alex began to dig and Nanda, Zoli was cleaning a small shovel with care. Almost a full day of work, after careful emerged from the cockpit floor, the bottom looking up. The floor plate of the right wing side stood a substantial piece neck and the back of the cab drop shaped. The cab is about. the pilot's feet broke, it was becoming clear that the beginning of burning, molten aluminum flowed in many places in the floor plate into slots. The cab hydraulic output tubes, cylinders, and a part of the engine wiring harness going to be much left in the conduit, interesting to see the more than 65-year-old wiring harness. Control cable routing and also vezetőgörgőik are in perfect condition, nicely factory codes are shown. The aluminum pipes, fittings, manifolds and other components are really nice, injury-free, and even a hydraulic hose blue-yellow-blue color code you can see, a lot of the paint is very nice component.
During this work it became clear that the wreck is not intact, you probably threw it in a hole in the larger pieces, as there were any components that are located away from the machine, and a very high concentration found them. For this reason, the location of objects was not examined in detail, since the circumstances of the crash did not contain any relevant information. We found, however, a disk that was a small caliber projectiles lyuggattak over this fact for the time being we have not found an explanation. The wreck artifacts around the field very much, and took part in an interesting and sometimes surprisingly beautiful and sometimes quite all bruised condition. Probably the most beautiful piece of the government forces used to compensate offset, from which two pieces. was the rear horizontal control surfaces facing each other. It comes to the cockpit hágcsója a blade antenna to the trunk port connecting point of the shielded cable to the cab roof frames, photo machine gun parts, 20mm and 12.7mm bushings, mounting opening frames, liquid level sensor, a lot of nice fresh tube clamps, fuel tank sealing rubber cylinders rubber and metal pipes, and yet unidentified components in weight, plenty of power and motor parts, many pieces of identification numbers.
For now we are beginning to work, as there are objects in front of us cleaning, upkeep possible, to prepare for the exhibition. Specifically, exhibitions, because we plan to successively two sites will be where you will be seen in the machinery and parts. Everything that this remarkable monument more interested in military history to be viewed. During and after the treatment found interesting details, the fate of the wreck, and that where and when it will be seen constantly informed you.
2010, April-May
The pilot ladder onset
during excavation
The text is a translation program made ​​any errors, please apologize.
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