After all these years ??

[Willee]

I posted this on another forum but want to post it here also.

After all these years have metal detectors advanced all that much?
Aside from bells and whistles, lightweight units. and fancy displays has the guts of the modern day metal detector advanced much from say a Compass Judge discriminating detector from the 80's?
I think the multi frequency has made them more stable but are they detecting deeper in a way that really means something? Tesoro had some really good models and so did Whites and Fisher.
I would think that after 20 or 30 years the improvements would be amazing ... however they seem not so great.
The new models have a waterproof housing but the Minelab Excalibur and the Fisher CZ-20 and CZ-21 did also and they worked just as well in the salt water as the new ones do.
They still sell the Excalibur as a current model ... that is how good it is.
What about pulse detectors ... why no discrimination on them yet? That was promised years ago.
Did all the older detectors like the Garrett GTI 2500 just stop working because Minelab released the Equinox series?
Or did people stop using them because they think the newer detectors will find that treasure their last years model can not?
I for one am disappointed that metal detectors have not made any new meaningful technical advancements in the last 30 years other than size, weight, battery, and displays. Detection depth has improved but only a few inches (a tuned Fisher CZ-5 detector can get as deep as the modern day Equinox)
The top of the line models can detect only an inch or so deeper than the lesser models (if that)
Compare the Equinox 600 to the CTX 3030 ... for about $1500 extra what are you getting?
An inch or so extra depth? GPS navigation? WOW!
They all make a noise when metal is passed under their coil.
I am sure the engineers are doing their best but I think the current electronic technology has played itself out.

 

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[KSDirtfisher77]

I would like to get a manticore or xp deus in my hands just to try. I use a whites V3i "as you all laugh"🤣😂🤣 & I still think that old machine will hold it's own. I just would like to try either detector on some grounds I've been over with the Whites to see if anything new shows.

 

[Willee]

I would like to get a manticore or xp deus in my hands just to try. I use a whites V3i "as you all laugh"🤣😂🤣 & I still think that old machine will hold it's own. I just would like to try either detector on some grounds I've been over with the Whites to see if anything new shows.

I agree with you on the White's V3i. Once you learn to use the discriminator and special graphs you can get a better grasp on that it is you are detecting. Where the Minelab multi-freq machines did that for you ... you have to look at the three frequencys on the graph and interpret their signature. Like the XP Dues it takes a lot of effort and time to learn ... if you want to get all you can from them. Otherwise the pre-programs in the Equinox series of detectors make deep detecting simple and painless. Learning curve for expert use is much shorter. Had all those machines over the years (Except for the Manticore) and feel the Equinox series is all I really need.

 

[Loco-Digger]

I am very content with the capabilities of my F75LTD that I bought used back in 2014. I see some buy a new machine every year or two. I guess that may feed their curiosity and keep them happy in the hobby.

 

[Gare]

Loco-Digger​

YOU are much wiser then me LOL

 

[pepperj]

I agree with you on the White's V3i. Once you learn to use the discriminator and special graphs you can get a better grasp on that it is you are detecting. Where the Minelab multi-freq machines did that for you ... you have to look at the three frequencys on the graph and interpret their signature. Like the XP Dues it takes a lot of effort and time to learn ... if you want to get all you can from them. Otherwise the pre-programs in the Equinox series of detectors make deep detecting simple and painless. Learning curve for expert use is much shorter. Had all those machines over the years (Except for the Manticore) and feel the Equinox series is all I really need.

What makes the Deus so difficult?
It has factory presets, turn on and go.pretty simple if you ask me.
All I know is depths have improved over the years.
Just have to learn what a person has bought.