Ace 250 users. Does this happen to you?

[PJ in WI]

I"m new to the Ace 250 but have been detecting with other machines. I have only used the Ace 3 times but it seems to ID coins wrong when they are over 5 inches. I've dug maybe 15 coins that the machine said 1 thing but the coin was not what it ID. Usually it read dime but I found pennies or once in awhile I dug quarters. It also reads dollar quite a bit. I have not dug up the dollar reads because it was happening far to often.

 

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[ringfinder]

Some times I get signals like that also. But most of them time I detect in the coin mode. I suggest you turn your sensitivity down and maybe use the coin mode. I usually use around 4 notches of sensitivity.

But heck, I usually don't even look at what coin signal it is, if it's a good singal and over 4 inches I dig it. But then I only dug 4 thousand clad coins last year with the ACE 250 and lots and lots of good silver finds, including a 6 pound cannonball. I found over 80 Indian head penny's and I forget how many wheat penny's I found. So far this year I have found almost 60 wheat penny's and best of all, a 1899 Silver Dollar and this did regester dollar on the meter. Go figure!

HH, Ringfinder and good luck with your ACE 250

 

[PATreasureHunter]

Yes, I get that too. I typically set my sensitvitiy to about 4 bars in normal hunting conditions. When I do that, yes, I'll get a signal that will go back and forth between a penny and a dime, and end up being a penny. However, on the other hand, other times when I get a SOLID signal of one coin, it does end up being that coin that it said it is. This especially happens with me with quarters, and nickels. Happy Hunting!

 

[Casull]

Holy cow Ringfinder, I only hope I can do as well with my ACE 250 as you have been doing. BTW, what area of the country are you in. Finding all those indians and a silver dollar. My hats off to you.

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

Perfectly normal behavior. I'll tell you what, when I first got my 250, the pennies would ID good, and little by little, pennies started appearing in the dime notch. Quarters seem to be the one coin it rarely misidentifies. The 250 is always detecting a 1/2 dollar or dollar....if you notice, they are all deep 8+ signals. I have dug these and have never found a coin for it. I'll get excited the day I see a dollar signal on the 2-6 inch range.

 

[COUNTRY GIRL]

Wow you guys know the machine! I just got my Ace and these folks have been awesome with the advice and tips. So what you are saying is dig the 2-6" signals for now leave the deeper ones alone?

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Whenever I dig a coin over 5 inches??

I rarely get a hit over 5 inches!!!!!

 

[ringfinder]

Some times I get signals like that also. But most of them time I detect in the coin mode. I suggest you turn your sensitivity down and maybe use the coin mode. I usually use around 4 notches of sensitivity.

But heck, I usually don't even look at what coin signal it is, if it's a good singal and over 4 inches I dig it. But then I only dug 4 thousand clad coins last year with the ACE 250 and lots and lots of good silver finds, including a 6 pound cannonball. I found over 80 Indian head penny's and I forget how many wheat penny's I found. So far this year I have found almost 60 wheat penny's and best of all, a 1899 Silver Dollar and this did regester dollar on the meter. Go figure!

HH, Ringfinder and good luck with your ACE 250

I'd like to correct one thing I mentioned in my previous post. If I get a good crisp signal, I dig it no matter what depth. Some of the place I have been hunting, most of the good coins, silver, have been at a depth of 4 inches or more. But I do dig signals at all depths. Just wanted to correct that mistake of mine.

HH, Ringfinder

 

[grogmug]

I have an ACE250 as well and have NOT found any silver coins...just a few wheats. Do you all dig trashy sites? I mean give me some tips, I'm on the verge of giving up. I hunt SEVERAL old homesteads, churches, civil war battlefields, schools. All from early 1800's to 1900's. HELP ME!!

 

[tmanfromtexas]

Grog, dont give up... I had my Ace for almost a year before I hit silver, and that was just a few weeks ago. The one thing I have found is that it depends alot on your hunting style. I have a park near my apartment that I checked out late last year. I went back and checked the same area again and found over a dollar in clad that I had missed. That tought me to slow down and make sure I cover every inch of the area that I am detecting. Good luck. TMAN...

 

[SantaFeNM]

I have an ACE250 as well and have NOT found any silver coins...just a few wheats. Do you all dig trashy sites? I mean give me some tips, I'm on the verge of giving up. I hunt SEVERAL old homesteads, churches, civil war battlefields, schools. All from early 1800's to 1900's. HELP ME!!

I too am having problems in a trashy area with the Ace 250. It is a ghost town site from the late 1800's-early 1900's. No buildings are standing, but the place is strewn with rusted metal, broken china, thick broken glass of teal and purple, bullets and casings, etc. I put the Ace in coin mode, and have taken the sensitivity down to two bars. I still get hits nearly every square foot! Have yet to find one coin. Just lots of trash. Should I customize and discriminate out more of the notches, like nickel? Thanks to anyone with an Ace who has hunted a site like this and has suggestions!

 

[Stacylee926]

First, I tend to be impatient by nature - so I typically do not dig trashy sites. I get frustrated with all the trash. I like the instant reward of clad, so I dig alot of elementary schools. I usually head to the concession stands of the ballfields, but then give up.

I dig in jewelry mode with the sensitivity set at 4 bars. After awhile you can tell the coin sound - especially with headphones. I am still learning the machine but have been very happy with my clad and am finally coming up with some decent jewelry.

 

[DFX-SE Gregg]

Guys this is why they make the more expensive detectors....I often read about people saying oh I spent 200 and the Ace 250 is as good as the explorer or dfx....this is simply not the case at all...sorry. The dfx is loaded with endless features and pre installed programs a monkey could use (not as hard as some claim). I wonder if in areas heavily hunted this is a ploy to keep people from buying a better machine by those using them! One of the features on the dfx (block/edit) allows you to simply wave the troublesome item in front of the coil and block it out! The dfx will reject just that or any exact reading you want! I have heard of some rejecting everything except quarters! You can do a ton with a great detector don't be fooled!

As far as the Ace 250 goes, this is what I would do if you are having problems. Search posts find those that are successful with it and ask them for tips. Remember a lot of the successful users are out there detecting and not always posting. One of the forums I visit there is a guy using a Fisher that usually finds over a 100 coins daily! A lot of times user adjustments will help, if not trade in or up, but hopefully you enjoy the hobby enough not to quit!

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

Wow you guys know the machine! I just got my Ace and these folks have been awesome with the advice and tips. So what you are saying is dig the 2-6" signals for now leave the deeper ones alone?

Country girl, the decision to dig is at your discretion, but you have made a good point. Until you gain more experience, it would not be a bad idea to stick to a more shallow range.........you will sharpen your skills faster digging 10 targets at 4 inches as oppposed to 1 at a 7 inch reading you may or may not find. Regarding the 1/2 dollar and dollar signals, you will notice that when you get them......they occur frequently and are not very steady at all, usually the signal is jumping around between, iron, dime and dollar or quarter and dollar, and if your machine acts like mine, you'll also notice that when the machine sounds off on these 1/2 dollar and dollar notches, the depth bar usually indicates a deep target, normally at the 8" mark. This should begin to tell you that the readings are probably false. If I had a dollar for every time the machine indicated one, I'd have about three grand in my pocket. With that said, if you do get a dollar signal that is quite steady where you had not been getting any and it rings from different angles, then perhaps you might want to check it out. My personal standard for digging one of those signals would be.........the notch does not jump at all, the signal is clear and not broken, the depth meter does not bounce, the signal is repeatable from different sweep angles, and the depth meter reads about right when in pin point mode. It is said that the Pin-point depth reading is more accurate, and I believe this to be true based on my experience. Sounds like the perfect signal, but that is what it will have to be for me to even bother,as I know there aren't Morgans ringing around every other few minutes. Maybe these targets are cans, or other large items. Lift your coil 10-12" inches off the ground and sweep. If the signal continues, it's not a coin, as a coin would not sound off with the coil that far away. This is a standard way to figure out if you have a can or large object, as they can make the machine sound off from as far as close to two feet. Lastly, the 250 is a good machine.........and it does find silver, trust me. I've found silver rings and coins, all posted here on TNET.

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

I have an ACE250 as well and have NOT found any silver coins...just a few wheats. Do you all dig trashy sites? I mean give me some tips, I'm on the verge of giving up. I hunt SEVERAL old homesteads, churches, civil war battlefields, schools. All from early 1800's to 1900's. HELP ME!!

Grogmug, my advice to you is this...........firstly, your 250 will and is designed to find coins.......and it is a master at finding dimes. Secondly, have you found clad coins? If your answer is yes, than my reply to you is that eventually you will run into silver. I do not know what your ratio will be. I dig about 100+ coins before I run into silver. Lastly, you need to be in the right place where there is silver and this is where your selection and research of hunting areas will take importance.

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

I have an ACE250 as well and have NOT found any silver coins...just a few wheats. Do you all dig trashy sites? I mean give me some tips, I'm on the verge of giving up. I hunt SEVERAL old homesteads, churches, civil war battlefields, schools. All from early 1800's to 1900's. HELP ME!!

I too am having problems in a trashy area with the Ace 250. It is a ghost town site from the late 1800's-early 1900's. No buildings are standing, but the place is strewn with rusted metal, broken china, thick broken glass of teal and purple, bullets and casings, etc. I put the Ace in coin mode, and have taken the sensitivity down to two bars. I still get hits nearly every square foot! Have yet to find one coin. Just lots of trash. Should I customize and discriminate out more of the notches, like nickel? Thanks to anyone with an Ace who has hunted a site like this and has suggestions!

SantafeNM, I hunt in NYC parks.........Nickel and the notch between penny and dime which picks up the new zinc pennies must be disc'd out or I would be digging up huge amounts of garbage. It's a sacrifice (No gold), but it's the only way. I definately recommend you use different disc setting based on what you are looking for. If it's only coins you are after, I'd kick the 250 into coin mode and disc out nickels and the notch between penny and dime. This notch picks up zinc pennies along with all types of pop tops, pull tabs and other garbage. And for the post, I'd like to add that many here who have used the 250 for a while will agree that detector is more than a $200 machine. You would have to dish out another $200 to buy something comparable if you went with a different brand. The 250 is a very capable machine.

 

[COUNTRY GIRL]

Ricardo, Thanks a million (dollars not pennies ) this is some great advice that I will follow. I am sure others will appreciate it as much as I do. You are so nice to share your experience, Thank you!

 

[MD Dog]

If you own a 250 listen up, you need to find some clean ground and plant some of your own coins as well as trash. They all have very distinctively different sounds on your machine if you spend the time to learn them. I very rarely dig anything other than coins because I discount all the sketchy iffy signals. If I'm looking for gold ,silver or jewelery I simply won't look in a very trashy area with the 250 I switch to another higher end model but I trade off for a heavier weight and don't usually bother to go that way. You also need a little info on how all metal detectors work, what effects them differntly. Old coins bleed into the ground and increase their signals, wet ground increases as well as scatters some signals, high mineralization can give false signals. All these things and more must be taken into account and with time spent to learn these things in your own area you too can and will become successful at MDing. Don't quit educate your self, heck you've already started by finding the best MD site on the net.

 

[SantaFeNM]

Thanks Ricardo! Good to hear what's working for you. I'll give that a try.

I have really good success with clad at a trashy area where people gather and build bonfires, which is nearby the ghost town. But that darn ghost town doesn't want to give up its secrets!

 

[ringfinder]

Guys this is why they make the more expensive detectors....I often read about people saying oh I spent 200 and the Ace 250 is as good as the explorer or dfx....this is simply not the case at all...sorry. The dfx is loaded with endless features and pre installed programs a monkey could use (not as hard as some claim). I wonder if in areas heavily hunted this is a ploy to keep people from buying a better machine by those using them! One of the features on the dfx (block/edit) allows you to simply wave the troublesome item in front of the coil and block it out! The dfx will reject just that or any exact reading you want! I have heard of some rejecting everything except quarters! You can do a ton with a great detector don't be fooled!

As far as the Ace 250 goes, this is what I would do if you are having problems. Search posts find those that are successful with it and ask them for tips. Remember a lot of the successful users are out there detecting and not always posting. One of the forums I visit there is a guy using a Fisher that usually finds over a 100 coins daily! A lot of times user adjustments will help, if not trade in or up, but hopefully you enjoy the hobby enough not to quit!

Just a quick thought to your post Greg, You can also blank out unwanted items with the ACE 250. I don't because I dig most good crisp sounds. But it can be done. Those who have bought this detector, a CD came with your detector or you can get one from Garrett. It explains how to make this adjustment. I think it is also in the manual.

I too have hunted spots that give you fits, but I just turn down the sensitivity and use the coin mode. If you get a signal that is good one way and not the other, most of the times it's an iron object.

As with all detector's expensive and not so expensive, you have to learn your detector. They all have their +'s and -'s. Slow down and smell the roses. As you can see from some of my posts, my partner and I both use the ACE 250 with a SunRay Probe and a good headset. We have had some great finds in the past weeks, but it all came about from research and getting permission to hunt those sites. We also dig trash, just like everyone does. We all have to pay our DUES.

If you want to blank out all items on your detector, do it, after you do take some items off, see if you can still pick up coins in the coin mode.

Good Luck, Ringfinder