Ace 250 target ID question....is my technique correct?

[funkman]

When I am detecting I have started just digging up the targets that give me a repeatable symbol on the target id every time the detector swings over it. In otherwords, if I find a target and the 250 tells me that it has the metallic signature of a dime, everytime I swing over it I get the same ID. This I will dig up. Could be a can but it could also be a coin. Now if I am detecting and I find a target that the 250 ID's all over the range of tragets (from pulltab up to 50 cent piece) and gives me a different ID with each swing, I do not dig these because I figure they are just a trash item. I have the Ace set on Jewelry mode so I get everything except iron (some of you other 250 users have yours set on this mode).

Am I correct in digging up only those repeatable targets and leaving the wacky ones there?

Thanks

Funkman

 

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[Ole Mole]

Here is a question for you and it happened to me.
What if you get a signal that is jumping all over the place say from nickle to penny or whatever. Why wouldn't you dig it?
I had this happen to me with my Ace250 2 weeks ago and I decided to dig because I was thinking along the same lines you are thinking right now. It wasn't ringing like a trash signal, but it seemed as though it could not make its mind up on what coin it was detecting. I decided to dig the target and it was a nickle and 3 pennies. I was set on coin mode at the time.
See what I'm saying?
The seasoned hunters here on the site recommend to dig all signals for the reason to know how your unit is working and reacts. I;m glad I dug, even though it was not old coins that I pulled out. If it were old coins and I didn't dig I would have jerked myself over on that one.
If you have any questions don't hesitate to PM me as I am more than willing to answer any that I can.
L8R and good luck

 

[hollowpointred]

When I am detecting I have started just digging up the targets that give me a repeatable symbol on the target id every time the detector swings over it. In otherwords, if I find a target and the 250 tells me that it has the metallic signature of a dime, everytime I swing over it I get the same ID. This I will dig up. Could be a can but it could also be a coin. Now if I am detecting and I find a target that the 250 ID's all over the range of tragets (from pulltab up to 50 cent piece) and gives me a different ID with each swing, I do not dig these because I figure they are just a trash item. I have the Ace set on Jewelry mode so I get everything except iron (some of you other 250 users have yours set on this mode).

Am I correct in digging up only those repeatable targets and leaving the wacky ones there?

Thanks

to answer your question.............maybe! it depends on how much you hate digging trash and how much missing a few good targets bothers you. you see, sometimes a deeper or on edge coin can make the target id on the ace a bit jumpy. it will look like a trashy signal, jumping all over the place, but it will usually sound pretty solid. if you only dig "for sure" signals you will, without doubt, miss some good targets. how many good targets is anybodies guess.

 

[Monty]

Sometimes one of those jump all over the place signals will indicate a good signal next to trash. For Instance a nickel laying up against a piece of melted aluminum (quite common on fresh water beaches where they build campfires). The nickel would be lighting up the left side of the scale while a piece of melted aluminum comes in like silver on the right side. The thing to do is to swing over the target from every possible angle until you get it to lock down on one icon more than all the others. It should bling in both directions....hopefully. And watch your depth indicator it sometimes jumps when something is right on the surface. These are things you will learn with more experience, but I'd dig them if they were shallow just in case. Monty

 

[pidjammies1]

I also have an Ace 250 and it's entirely up to you. To dig or not to dig..... Depends on your motivation. I have dug signals that were iffy and come up with rings with my detector set on coin mode.

 

[funkman]

thanks all for the input. I thought that the jumpy signals were big trash items but what I am thinking you all are saying is that there might be other items there that all have different metallic signatures. Is this correct that there are multiple items there? If not what kinds of things would cause a detector to bounce all over the place on the target id scale?

Thanks all.

Funkman

 

[Ole Mole]

thanks all for the input. I thought that the jumpy signals were big trash items but what I am thinking you all are saying is that there might be other items there that all have different metallic signatures. Is this correct that there are multiple items there? If not what kinds of things would cause a detector to bounce all over the place on the target id scale?

Thanks all.

Funkman

My answer would be yes to the first part of your question. It very well could be multiple metallic hits in one hole. In reading some of the posts here on the forum it is quite common to dig a hit and come out with multiple coins, coins and a ring, coins and iron, or even coins and aluminum trash. One item can be covering up the signal of another object, hence the suggestion to rescan the hole before covering it back up after you have already pulled an item out of it. I have started to get into the habit of scanning the hole after I have dug a plug. I scan the plug first to see if the target object is in it and if not I scan the hole. Could be a target is shallow in the plug that gives a strong signal and a target in the hole that was covered by the plug target. Gotta check'em both as it is all part of the hunt. It does get mind boggling at times, but the best part is retrieving and learning what the signal is telling you.
Good luck and just have fun. The seasoned hunters here on the forum have went through it when they started and it just doesn't happen overnight. Well, maybe for someone who fell into a bit of luck, but that doesn't come around that often.

 

[skydiv]

with my ace 250 a solid hit on a dime means it is either LM or a dime, a solid nickle hit is either a nickle or junk, a solid quarter is a quarter, and a .50 hit is always a pop can. so unstable hits i don't dig because i dig enough junk.

 

[relicreb]

I dig unstable hits if they are solid. I have found that some items that are targets made of different metals IE pocketknife will give a solid but erratic signal. Just my 2 cents.
Good Diggin
Relicreb

 

[urbss]

with my ace 250 a solid hit on a dime means it is either LM or a dime, a solid nickle hit is either a nickle or junk, a solid quarter is a quarter, and a .50 hit is always a pop can. so unstable hits i don't dig because i dig enough junk.

I would normally agree that a .50 hit is always a pop can - except one time in my backyard when I unearthed a 1945 Walking Liberty Half in nearly perfect condition. So, you never know!!

I would like to say that this thread has really helped me out a lot. I sometimes pass up those targets where my Ace is bouncing all over the place, but I don't know if I will do that anymore (or at least not until I dig up a bunch of things and then make an educated decision).

 

[garrettfan2]

Also important is what location you are at. On a beach you will pass on a lot of signals that you would dig at a park or old homestead. I have the ace 100, and all you get is the sound. Pulltabs sound differently than coins, and after 4 yrs of using it, you get a good idea what to dig and what to pass. Become familiar with the machine. Technique is critical. Experience is too. I recently upgraded to the garrett gti 1500. It has the target size, but i still need to learn how it reacts. Nothing is automatic. I had a c size target that I should pass. Since it is new to me, I decided to dig anyway. It was a dime.

 

[Captain Trips]

I've only been using mine a few months, but have learned to not rely on the i.d. display. I dig all beeps and bings, and tend to skip the boops. That is, I usually discriminate out the lowest "iron" notch, and listen for the remaining hits. If it goes beep-boop-boop-beep-boop, I usually skip it -- probably just some iron junk. (I miss a lot of rusty nails this way.) But if it goes beep-beep-bing-beep-bing, I dig.

Put in other words, I go more by sound than display. I like to find anything worthwhile, and am willing to remove pull tabs and cans from the beach just to make sure I don't miss anything good. The only thing I don't dig on is something with an obvious trash signal. And the only way to find out what sounds out as trash is to dig, dig, dig, at every signal until you are familiar with your machine.

HH!