A whole lotta history and relics.....

[scotto]

Went out yesterday with Fossis to a beautiful country spot. Did some sightseeing and metal detecting. Fossis was on a great relic hunt, and found some great stuff.
He then took my wife and I out to see this giant of an Oak tree, what a pretty spot. Look at the pic of Fossis next to this tree, it dwarfs him pretty bad! Even pics do not do this tree justice, it is one of those things you've got to see for yourself.

He then showed us an area that is an old dump site, with old farm implements, an old grinding wheel by a saw blade, and there was an old buggy rotted away in the grass.

So much history in this area, which Fossis knows like the back of his hand. He is pretty much a walking encyclopedia of the area.

 

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[staceysallaboutu]

Very nice pictures I love the old oak.. If that tree could only tell the history it has lived though.

 

[Stormtrooper154]

That right there is a big tree!!!

 

[TreasureTales]

Nice relics. That saw blade, if it is intact, could be worth about $25-40 here in CA. Is the handle on it? It looks like a single buck saw.


Nice Oak Tree, but puny compared to some of ours up in the north Sacramento Valley.
Hooker Oak (deceased) near Chico, California

Do you see the man on the far right of the photo?
Now that was an oak tree!

 

[tinpan]

Cool relics and trees. Congrats, I would like to hear about some of history of the places you hunt.

tin

 

[karib2517]

good looking pics,did you find anything under the tree?

 

[Maryland Searcher]

That tree looks like the giant Wye Oak that is (was) in Maryland before the one storm took it down. Huge fella it was!

 

[Nana40]

So much history in this area, which Fossis knows like the back of his hand. He is pretty much a walking encyclopedia of the area.
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I wish I had a Fossis too!

What a beautiful tree! Congrats on those great relics! Thanks for the pics!!!

Nana

 

[Wetgreenie]

I have heard of tree huggers but,
what the heck are you doing?

 

[fossis]

Nice relics. That saw blade, if it is intact, could be worth about $25-40 here in CA. Is the handle on it? It looks like a single buck saw.


Nice Oak Tree, but puny compared to some of ours up in the north Sacramento Valley.
Hooker Oak (deceased) near Chico, California

Do you see the man on the far right of the photo?
Now that was an oak tree!

I wouldn't call 27 feet 31 inches around puny, I am 5 foot nine inches tall, & took me 5 & one half armlengths to reach around it.

 

[fossis]

I have heard of tree huggers but,
what the heck are you doing?

Just giving it a gentle squeeze,

Fossis........................

 

[fossis]

Cool relics and trees. Congrats, I would like to hear about some of history of the places you hunt.

tin

Thanks tinpan, This area of Western Ar, has been inhabited by ancient Indians as long as 12,000 years up to about 1541, when De Soto's party came through, spreading European diseases as he went, the later French trappers found very small groups left.
see my post on Indian Artifacts to see some found in this area, (My 30 year collection), Large Indian mounds are located north of here, (Spiro),where many Artifacts were found, Copper from Michigan ,shells (engraved) , from the Gulf of Mexico,. Pottery, stone tools, beads, & large amounts of freshwater pearls, the area is maintained by the OK Historical Society. My uncles, while swimming in a local river in the 1930's found a cap & ball pistol, probably from the fur trade era. The town of Poteau, in this area, means (post), for trading post I presume, there are many French names, Petit Jean, Fourche Maline river, Sugarloaf Mountain, ( the french had hard cone shaped mounds of sugar).
After the French, came the market hunters, who supplied wild game for the markets in the East, early settlers told of hides of all kinds hanging at the log cabins, the town of (oil through) got it's name from hollow logs used as a means to load bear grease on to Steamships.
Arkansas , was once known as the bear state, most were killed out by the 1930's, now with bears from (Minnasota), they are on the rebound.
The last buffalo, (smaller woodland type), were killed by Cajuns from
louisania, other animals, such as grouse, disappeared also.
Old timers told me in the later days, you would get excited to see a deer track, the game was devastated, forests were cut & people left for greener pastures.
I grew up on a 40 acre farm, nestled up against the forest, I am part Cherokee Indian, & I loved the rivers, valleys, & mountains, spent so many wonderful days roaming, riding horseback, sitting by campfires, fishing, I also taught my children about the land, & to not just take, but give back, (picking up litter, etc,) . (The Federal Government), Forest Service took over the management, & now it is a thriving, wild game filled place .mountains are called Ouachita
Pronounced Wash-uh-taw, means (Good Hunting) in Quapaw Indian Language.
We made our living in the timber Industry, as did many here.
The settlers, were mostly Scotch-Irish, or German, they homesteaded, & raised cotton & corn, mostly. later, Italians came to work the coal mines, I remember some when I was a small boy, (found a miners pick) just the other day.
My Mother, who is 87, remembers when they rang the school bell, in the 1920's to tell the children of a mine explosion, in which some of their fathers died.
I hope I haven't rambled on too long, I could talk about this area for days, my batteries are being recharged for my camera, will have pic's tonight, of some locations,
Fossis....................

 

[davesx]

Hi,scotto.
Thats some tree,It sounds like a beutiful place to be,I envy you.
You're so lucky,fossis really brings it to life.

WTG both
dave.

 

[Okie Hillbillies]

Hey Scotto we saw that tree when we were out with Fossis last
Sunday It really is a huge tree Great looking finds

Okie Hillbillies

 

[fossis]

Clouds moved in this evening, didn't get too many Pic's, but here are a few------Runestones at State park, I worked for Gloria Farley,
who studied North American Explorers before Columbus, I was fortunate to be included in her book, about a ring with an Egyptian Goddess, (Tanit), her book is (IN PLAIN SIGHT), she worked for 30 something years on this research.
Other pics are Country Baptising, Baling hay, Choctaw police in Indian Territory days, (Lighthorsemen) Sugarloaf mountain, in Eastern OK, Old house was Peter Conser's, (bottom right in pic, he went to Texas during the Civil war, with just a steer hide for a blanket, & a bucket to cook wild game in, (used rocks I guess),
when the war was over, he came back to the Territory with seed corn
& had a good crop, then went on to be a merchant & leading Citizen of the area, family cemetery is nearby. Fossis...............

 

[TreasureTales]

Fossis, very cool old and new pix, thanks! There is a TNet member who is working on his own book about pre-Columbian explorers. His name is Oroblanco and he has a keen interest in artifacts that seem out of place in America...European, Asian, and Pacific Island things that predate 1492 yet are in this country. Fascinating realm of study.

 

[fossis]

Fossis, very cool old and new pix, thanks! There is a TNet member who is working on his own book about pre-Columbian explorers. His name is Oroblanco and he has a keen interest in artifacts that seem out of place in America...European, Asian, and Pacific Island things that predate 1492 yet are in this country. Fascinating realm of study.

Glad you enjoyed them, I had access to Gloria's library, when I drove her around & worked for her, There were stories of Chinese (stone) Anchors found in your area, asian chickens in South America, chinese statues drilled up in wells in OK, Scarib beatle carvings found here also.
Egyptian Relics from The Grand Canyon, Roman & Jewish Artifacts found near Tuscon in hard (caliche), allmost like concrete.
My little few paragraphs in her book were about a ring found near the LAbrea tar pits, in LA, it was silver, Made in mexico, but had an egyptian scarib, (Dung beatle) on it
The lady brought it to OK, where I saw it.
I was always fascinated with her Research, & showed her some of my finds over the years.
A fellow detectorist Jesse Kelly from AR (now deceased), & also a good friend, found a coin , (Greek I believe) about 200 BC a few miles from where Scotto & team have been detecting, it was purchased by Gloria.
I also heard of a very large iron Axe head dug (while digging a well), in AR ,it was much bigger than an old Broadaxe (according to diggers), & deep in the ground.
I could go on & on & on,

Fossis.................

 

[TreasureTales]

Fossis, very cool old and new pix, thanks! There is a TNet member who is working on his own book about pre-Columbian explorers. His name is Oroblanco and he has a keen interest in artifacts that seem out of place in America...European, Asian, and Pacific Island things that predate 1492 yet are in this country. Fascinating realm of study.

Glad you enjoyed them, I had access to Gloria's library, when I drove her around & worked for her, There were stories of Chinese (stone) Anchors found in your area, asian chickens in South America, chinese statues drilled up in wells in OK, Scarib beatle carvings found here also.
Egyptian Relics from The Grand Canyon, Roman & Jewish Artifacts found near Tuscon in hard (caliche), allmost like concrete.
My little few paragraphs in her book were about a ring found near the LAbrea tar pits, in LA.
The lady brought it to OK, where I saw it, I borrowed many books, & really was fascinated with her work.

HH, Fossis..................

Man, this is interesting stuff. I would enjoy a thread with you and Oroblanco discussing the tangible evidence that indicates people were here before the Native Americans. I understand that the oldest skulls that have been found all around the country have characteristics of Europeans rather than Asians. Proving, some say, that Native Americans were not the first to settle on this continent. What did Gloria conclude?

 

[fossis]

Gotta get with Oroblanco!!! Will have to refresh my memory on the skulls, but remember stories of hugh skeletons found in several areas of North America, several with reddish, long, hair.
The Mandan Indians had grey hair, & some with blue eyes, thought to be the lost tribe of Welshmen.
Also, ever hear of Melungeons? (think I spelled it right), they were found in the Mountain regions of the East, they didn't know where they originated from, but were there when the Scotch-Irish came to the area, Abe Lincoln, Elvis, to name a few are thought to be same.I read a story where a man, researching his roots, went to a country in the Medditeranian area, & was met by weeping people who recognized him as one of their own, (he was from the mountain area in US . Gotta get to bed, has been fun,....Fossis......

 

[TreasureTales]

Gotta get with Oroblanco!!! Will have to refresh my memory on the skulls, but remember stories of hugh skeletons found in several areas of North America, several with reddish, long, hair.
The Mandan Indians had grey hair, & some with blue eyes, thought to be the lost tribe of Welshmen.
Also, ever hear of Melungeons? (think I spelled it right), they were found in the Mountain regions of the East, they didn't know where they originated from, but were there when the Scotch-Irish came to the area, Abe Lincoln, Elvis, to name a few are thought to be same.I read a story where a man, researching his roots, went to a country in the Medditeranian area, & was met by weeping people who recognized him as one of their own, (he was from the mountain area in US . Gotta get to bed, has been fun,....Fossis......

Melungeons have a tendency to have an extra digit - one of the characteristics that indicate Melungeon genes. Definitely heard of them! I posted this next bit of info before on TNet and seemed to rile at least one member for some reason, but here goes again. The chief of the Suisun Indian tribe (California) - Solano was his name - was well known to the Russian sea otter hunters of Fort Ross, Calfornia (@1832). He was said to be 6' tall and had blue eyes. He apparently fell in love with a Russian princess and was determined to have her. The Russian soldiers kept Solano away, but he never got over her. I always wondered what SHE looked like. Maybe he was Melungeon or European descent himself.

Yes, please see if you and Oroblanco would do a special "live" discussion of the earliest inhabitants/explorers of this continent because it could lead to some treasure leads - and it would be extremely interesting for its own sake. Happy Hunting