A whats it and an odd bullet

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A what's it and an odd bullet

First, the what's it. I find a number of these things scattered around. It's been suggested that they are part of a telephone or part of the flares shot out of A-10's as they buzz around. I don't really buy either one of these, but I've been wrong before.
Any ideas?

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The hole in the middle is threaded. When the spring loaded top is depressed, a blade(?) closes the hole in the center.
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Now, the bullet. The upper portion of the bullet seems to be much larger in diameter than the base. I can't seem to visualize ther chamber that would allow such a bullet to be fired.

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Re: A what's it and an odd bullet

That first thing looks like a resistor... like a ceramic ballast resistor.
That second thing is not a bullet IMO... more pics? Size?
 

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Ballast resistor sounds reasonable. Any idea what it may have been? I've picked up at least 20 of them over the last few months. Mostly well away from any structures, roads, power lines, etc.

As for the bullet thing, there are, what appear to be, rifling marks on it as well as a portion of what I assume to be a copper jacket. The overall length is 11/16 inch, the base diameter is roughly .25 inch, the head is .375. The base is flat, not convex.

A couple more pics:
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Re: A what's it and an odd bullet

bullet is such that as it passed through something it pushed the top wider.

Ballest resistor look to be correct on the other item.
 

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I'm not that familiar with small bore shotgun slugs, but it doesn't resemble any projectiles I've seen from 12, 16, or 20 ga. shotguns. The base seems to have crimp rings where it would have been crimped into the shell.

I was kind of hoping it was from some sort of x-gun that failed :). If that's not the case, I'll accept the compacted bullet idea.
 

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IMO that is not a bullet.Not sure but it just doesn't look right to have traveled through a gun barrel.And I have never seen a bullet mushroom like that either.What you are calling the base almost looks like the piece attached to a muzzle loader rod for cleaning. ??? HB
 

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I maybe wrong bit I believe that what you have is called a "heeled" bullet. From the dimensions stated, it is most likely from a .38 cal cartridge. It is called "heeled" because the portion that is inside the case is smaller in diameter than the exposed portion. This would allow the exposed projectile and case to be the same size as the bore of the barrel.

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This is not the best example but it does show the smaller diameter of base. The earlier cases had slightly thicker walls.
 

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Re: A what's it and an odd bullet

Perhaps the metal inside corroded and expanded, similar to a zincoln

HH
-GC
 

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Re: A what's it and an odd bullet

RevJoel said:
I maybe wrong bit I believe that what you have is called a "heeled" bullet. From the dimensions stated, it is most likely from a .38 cal cartridge. It is called "heeled" because the portion that is inside the case is smaller in diameter than the exposed portion. This would allow the exposed projectile and case to be the same size as the bore of the barrel.
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This is not the best example but it does show the smaller diameter of base. The earlier cases had slightly thicker walls.
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I like this answer the best so far. 8)

I tried to picture it as something other than a bullet, but just can't get past the rifling marks. I didn't get a good pic of them, but they are very evident when looking at it.
 

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I agree with the "it's not a bullet" bunch. It could have been fired through a muzzle loader as they could fire anything stuffed down the barrel. When out of bullets the shooters often stuffed the barrell with about anything that could be a projectile such as nails, coins, etc, etc. May be a projectile, but not a bullet! Monty
 

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Re: A what's it and an odd bullet

Am I seeing in the first image that the bullet shaped thinghy has a rectangular hole through it crossways? Looks to me like a plug that was crimped or screwed into a tube or drilled hole and something passed through that hole - a line, bar, etc.
 

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I'm not quite sure what you're looking at. The bullet looking thingy has a gouge in it that is almost at a right angle to the direction it would have been traveling, if fired from a weapon.
 

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It looks like the white surface is visible through the hole. Guess it's just reflection on the edge???
 

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Man... I dunno...

- it looks copper jacketed
- the base is "bullet like" with rings
- I cannot account for that even "mushroom" effect coupled with the mared side
- ... and still have the jacket mostly in place?

I'm seeing a bullet type thinggy, but I don't think it is one... I think that lower ring might have held a retaining clip.

Charlie... I think thats a reflection.
 

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Re: A what's it and an odd bullet

Charlie, what you're seeing is the shiny edge of the copper jacket.

I don't know, either. The only thing I'm fairly sure of, is that it is a copper jacketed piece of lead. :P
 

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QUICKSILVER (appletree) said:
A radio or TV antenna base, the fat part is pressed into the radio receiver and the narrow section had the antenna on it ??? :-\
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I'm with QUICKSILVER. I think its some kind of electrode tip or cap.

DCMatt
 

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