A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

[timekiller]

A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Took the day off and went MDing.Had found a new site and wanted to hit it.So I Did.Came up with some first for me.And some I don't even know what they are.All needs a better cleaning just done a quick soap and water deal.Here they are till I get them cleaned better.
Enjoy,
Timekiller!

 

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[timekiller]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Thank Cru, always big help too!

 

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[CRUSADER]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Agreed Crusader, "if this doesn't make it, nothing should"

Here is a little more on the "acorn spoon" which further confirms the 1500's date...

"The earlier English spoon-handles terminate in an acorn, plain knob or a diamond; at the end of the 16th century,"





http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Spoon

I think your probably right, I wish I still had my Pewter Spoon Contact, I will try & dig it out

 

[riverdolphin]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

There you go again. One jaw-dropping, eye-popping, breath-taking, good gollly miss molly find after another. Congradulations!!!

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Ok, nothing should.

 

[romeo-1]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Incredible recovery!!! Needs to be on the banner!

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

I vote banter... I mean banher... I mean.... did you not see my token gheesh.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Ok, nothing should.

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the whole USA/Canada. Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell. NB. Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Ok, nothing should.

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada. Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell. NB. Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

Yes! Definitely has my vote. That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Ok, nothing should.

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada. Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell. NB. Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

Yes! Definitely has my vote. That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

Exactly my thought, there maybe some in a Museum somewhere! The experts thinking it was made in the UK!

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Ok, nothing should.

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada. Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell. NB. Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

Yes! Definitely has my vote. That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

Exactly my thought, there maybe some in a Museum somewhere! The experts thinking it was made in the UK!

Most likely, most stuff we find is, but damn just imagine finding the other piece with American marks. Now that would get some attention.

PS.... It is very interesting if it's 16th century but keep in mind it's far different coming off a later site than would be a site dating to the same period.

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Was going to wait till I actually dug something silvery for my "Silver Member" level status, but that spoon mold is one nice piece of newly dug history!

Spoon, Banner....

SPANNER!!!
Carl
Stuck in 18" of snow, Denver

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: NEW SITE NEW FINDS SOME FIRST One Being A 17th Century Spoon Mold!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Ok, nothing should.

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada. Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell. NB. Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

Yes! Definitely has my vote. That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

Exactly my thought, there maybe some in a Museum somewhere! The experts thinking it was made in the UK!

Most likely, most stuff we find is, but damn just imagine finding the other piece with American marks. Now that would get some attention.

PS.... It is very interesting if it's 16th century but keep in mind it's far different coming off a later site than would be a site dating to the same period.

Agreed, I have no clue what age the site is & I understand its a sore thumb in the mix but the site has only just begun to be unpicked, we might get more info soon. Don't think it will include anything as old as this though. I would guess its a well used handed down item.

 

[johnnyi]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

"Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the whole USA/Canada. Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell. NB. Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers. "

You did well to stick your neck out Crusader. Right now we can only speculate on its exact provenance, but the nearness to the Jamestown settlement might be to a key to some exact identification. There are a wealth of finds rthere to research. The score lines on along the handle are unique like fingerprints and can be matched if other like objects exist.

 

[Ia.FurTrade]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Definately "Banner"!!!!

 

[timekiller]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

I vote banter... I mean banher... I mean.... did you not see my token gheesh.

Yes I did see that baby and voted on it as well buddy. But as I have found out on here some things take awhile to get up there just like my token what was it a month after the find it showed up there.I don't understand the reason for that as some things go up as quick as they appear.But I do know this mold rather it is 16,17,18,19,20,21th century came from this site these finds came from how I don't know but did.It is odd and I maybe shouldn't put 16th century on the title But I respect what you say there IP! I just find,post and try to learn from.Rather it does or not I'm past that crazy mess.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

I vote banter... I mean banher... I mean.... did you not see my token gheesh.

Yes I did see that baby and voted on it as well buddy. But as I have found out on here some things take awhile to get up there just like my token what was it a month after the find it showed up there.I don't understand the reason for that as some things go up as quick as they appear.But I do know this mold rather it is 16,17,18,19,20,21th century came from this site these finds came from how I don't know but did.It is odd and I maybe shouldn't put 16th century on the title But I respect what you say there IP! I just find,post and try to learn from.Rather it does or not I'm past that crazy mess.

I'm just causing a bit of trouble. I might post an update soon, show em what they missed.

 

[timekiller]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

I vote banter... I mean banher... I mean.... did you not see my token gheesh.

Yes I did see that baby and voted on it as well buddy. But as I have found out on here some things take awhile to get up there just like my token what was it a month after the find it showed up there.I don't understand the reason for that as some things go up as quick as they appear.But I do know this mold rather it is 16,17,18,19,20,21th century came from this site these finds came from how I don't know but did.It is odd and I maybe shouldn't put 16th century on the title But I respect what you say there IP! I just find,post and try to learn from.Rather it does or not I'm past that crazy mess.

I'm just causing a bit of trouble. I might post an update soon, show em what they missed.

There you go Buddy,Tell you the truth when I first dug it out I thought it was a piano foot pedal. Just shows how much I know. Was't till later after knocking the dirt off that it wasn't making since to me.
Pete

 

[IronSpike]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Excellent finds timekiller That spoon mold is a unique find

BANNER

 

[johnnyi]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

To get a real appreciation for this fantastic find, here's a great link which vividly shows life and objects perhaps as long as a full hundred years AFTER this mold was made. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16277/16277-h/16277-h.htm

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

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