A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

I know that some of you are probably familiar with this shot and the story behind it.

For the rest of you...

This is a bluff that I sat on, while photographing the valley below it.

I didn’t know it, at the time, but the bluff is a skull [emoji88], as seen from the right side. The eye socket is part of a pointer and has a shadow dog and sun lit face, with long hair streaming over the edge of the bluff.

It was taken as an afterthought, as I was leaving. It was the day before or after the spring equinox, purely by accident, and it took me several years to figure it out. And several years later, Weekender photographed it’s confirmation, also without noticing it for several months.

Outside of a few days each side of the equinox, the shadow dog and sunlit face, are not visible at all.

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The two photos were taken approximately two miles away from each other, years apart, and by two different people.

I don’t believe in coincidence, anymore.

I do believe in taking lots of photos!!!

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[sdcfia]

Mine was taken 7 minutes before solar noon on the 17th.
It makes sense to build summer solstice activated markers facing north and winter solstice activated markers facing south.

It makes much more sense to assume that your "sun shadow treasure markers" would be visible on non-solstice or equinox dates. Why would you assume a person would wait around - possibly for months - before creating a shadow sign? After all, unless you're reconstructing a calendar, solstices and equinoxes are only four days out of 365 in a year. The remaining 361 days are equally usable, much, much easier to create, and for "security" reasons are better choices since they are much less likely to be discovered later by nosy outsiders who are looking for solstice markers.

 

[Chadeaux]

It makes much more sense to assume that your "sun shadow treasure markers" would be visible on non-solstice or equinox dates. Why would you assume a person would wait around - possibly for months - before creating a shadow sign? After all, unless you're reconstructing a calendar, solstices and equinoxes are only four days out of 365 in a year. The remaining 361 days are equally usable, much, much easier to create, and for "security" reasons are better choices since they are much less likely to be discovered later by nosy outsiders who are looking for solstice markers.

Boo Hoo!

 

[elh]

It makes much more sense to assume that your "sun shadow treasure markers" would be visible on non-solstice or equinox dates. Why would you assume a person would wait around - possibly for months - before creating a shadow sign? After all, unless you're reconstructing a calendar, solstices and equinoxes are only four days out of 365 in a year. The remaining 361 days are equally usable, much, much easier to create, and for "security" reasons are better choices since they are much less likely to be discovered later by nosy outsiders who are looking for solstice markers.

That's almost 100% different from the majority of the hunters and finders. Good catch by shadow. '' Can't spell it without looking at it)''

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

It makes much more sense to assume that your "sun shadow treasure markers" would be visible on non-solstice or equinox dates. Why would you assume a person would wait around - possibly for months - before creating a shadow sign? After all, unless you're reconstructing a calendar, solstices and equinoxes are only four days out of 365 in a year. The remaining 361 days are equally usable, much, much easier to create, and for "security" reasons are better choices since they are much less likely to be discovered later by nosy outsiders who are looking for solstice markers.

It is a little difficult to figure out what you mean, when you argue both sides of the explanation.

The reasons for making them visible for 3 days each year over one campsite is often to tell when it is time to move from the winter camp to the summer camp.

As for your reasons, to make them to be visible the remaining 362 days per year, are simple. The angle of the sun changes every day throughout the year, and someone that is making a map for someone to return to their sites years later, would map out the code for a specific date and place, to know that they are in the correct spot.

These date specific signs are not made for us. They are meant for the people that were given the original map.

They don’t chisel these signs out in one day. They prepare it to be finished in one day.

You will not find these on a site that was worked for a short time, and abandoned.

The idea that, it is better to make it visible most of the year is just fine for monuments that create a trail, but these are symbols that are proof that you are on the site that you would be following, if you have a map.

You clearly wouldn’t leave your keys to your house or car in the lock to your house or car 362 days a year and leave notes as to your address and parking spot at work.

The men that made these marks were working with cartographers.

The location of my bluff, is on a very old map somewhere. But it is also on my map, and I will keep its secret, until I have permission to work the place that it marks.

I found it by accident, but I researched it with a reason.

#80{>~

 

[sandy1]

It is a little difficult to figure out what you mean, when you argue both sides of the explanation.

The reasons for making them visible for 3 days each year over one campsite is often to tell when it is time to move from the winter camp to the summer camp.

As for your reasons, to make them to be visible the remaining 362 days per year, are simple. The angle of the sun changes every day throughout the year, and someone that is making a map for someone to return to their sites years later, would map out the code for a specific date and place, to know that they are in the correct spot.

These date specific signs are not made for us. They are meant for the people that were given the original map.

They don’t chisel these signs out in one day. They prepare it to be finished in one day.

You will not find these on a site that was worked for a short time, and abandoned.

The idea that, it is better to make it visible most of the year is just fine for monuments that create a trail, but these are symbols that are proof that you are on the site that you would be following, if you have a map.

You clearly wouldn’t leave your keys to your house or car in the lock to your house or car 362 days a year and leave notes as to your address and parking spot at work.

The men that made these marks were working with cartographers.

The location of my bluff, is on a very old map somewhere. But it is also on my map, and I will keep its secret, until I have permission to work the place that it marks.

I found it by accident, but I researched it with a reason.

#80{>~

Excellent Analogy.

 

[Quinoa]

Alot of the solstice things still show up several days before and several days after, but they have the best detail the closer you get to the solstice. Another thing on the morning/afternoon/ watching the shadows thing could better be explained as : watching the hillside almost fully engulfed in shadows except for a couple sunlit spots. These can be the first sunlit areas of the morning, or the very last lit spots of the evening, watch the canyons and the large cliffs. Especially on the winter solstice evening thing. There is bizarre stuff out there on these dates.

 

[sdcfia]

That's almost 100% different from the majority of the hunters and finders. Good catch by shadow. '' Can't spell it without looking at it)''

Absolutely correct, elh - thanks for unintentionally supporting my statement on this thread (where five of the posters on permanent IGNORE). As you ought to know, nearly all "searchers" have found absolutely nothing significant, and the self-proclaimed "finders" are self-serving liars.

 

[sdcfia]

It is a little difficult to figure out what you mean, when you argue both sides of the explanation.

The reasons for making them visible for 3 days each year over one campsite is often to tell when it is time to move from the winter camp to the summer camp.

As for your reasons, to make them to be visible the remaining 362 days per year, are simple. The angle of the sun changes every day throughout the year, and someone that is making a map for someone to return to their sites years later, would map out the code for a specific date and place, to know that they are in the correct spot.

These date specific signs are not made for us. They are meant for the people that were given the original map.

They don’t chisel these signs out in one day. They prepare it to be finished in one day.

You will not find these on a site that was worked for a short time, and abandoned.

The idea that, it is better to make it visible most of the year is just fine for monuments that create a trail, but these are symbols that are proof that you are on the site that you would be following, if you have a map.

You clearly wouldn’t leave your keys to your house or car in the lock to your house or car 362 days a year and leave notes as to your address and parking spot at work.

The men that made these marks were working with cartographers.

The location of my bluff, is on a very old map somewhere. But it is also on my map, and I will keep its secret, until I have permission to work the place that it marks.

I found it by accident, but I researched it with a reason.

#80{>~

You misunderstood my post, PM - or more likely, I wasn't clear enough. Let me fix that here. I didn't mean to suggest that an intentional sun shadow sign is visible more than a few days a year. As you correctly pointed out, the sun angle relative to the earth's surface is constantly changing, and in most cases a subtly manipulated surface is only most clearly seen on those few days a year (or possibly several, depending on surface and the depth of the chisel work) where that sun angle is on the same plane (or very nearly so) as the surface of the rock that has been altered. Any day of the year works the same.

Your post's statements that I've highlighted in red are exactly correct. My point was this: why choose the solstices? Any day will work. The more random, the better. All you need on the day you create the sun sign is a rock with a reasonably flat surface that is on the same plane as the sun angle that day at a certain time (sunrise, high noon and sunset are the easiest to use). Duck soup.

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

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Here is probably one of the best, if not the best, sun and shadow signs on the internet.
I don’t know who took the photo, but they were in the right place at the right hour and on the right day.

One can see a slightly different version of it on the day before and the day after, BUT a few hours, one the middle day is all that is exactly right.

That took many men, many days and even years to get it right.

If you zoom in and check out the dark spots and debris trails, you will see where more than a dozen attempts have been made to unearth something around the shadow.

This is at Apache junction, AZ.
And can de seen for three days in the spring and three days in the fall, each year if it is not raining, but that doesn’t happen very often.

Someone has a map that tells where to go from here, and and when to be there, so they know that they are headed to the next monument....

Back then , that was the only key to that part of the map. These were made right, under pain of death decree made by the King of Spain.

I hope this clarifies the need for a specific day and time to read these signs.

Happy hunting.
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[White Heart]

I found this 5 years ago.
It is a solstice/equinox marker and a survey marker.. My guess is it was built between 1846 and 1890, but it is tying to Spanish surveys. It had been put into mothball status. i.e. hidden. Spanish surveying is one of my favorite subjects these days. Men of the 19th century used their knowledge of surveying and law to steal the land grants from their rightful owners.
I returned to it on every solstice and equinox for 4 years and was lucky to get photos at each juncture at least once.
It is effective for just a day or 2 on either side. On the exact moment, you know it. But only for 5 or 10 minutes right at sunset, often obscured by clouds or vegetation. I went to great lengths to calculate and clear vegetation up to 300 feet away, sometimes only to get no photo due to clouds and the next year it had all overgrown again.
The equinoxes light up a yellow triangle , about 5/8"x5/8"x5/8" which is about 8 inches deep through the opening below the lower rock plug. 2nd photo.
Winter solstice brings 2 snakehead rock shadows into one, at sunset and they touch the vertical chiseled line. Summer solstice lights up a white bird behind the upper rock plug.
The whole thing was buried behind 3 feet of rock fill. I had been led there by euclidian clues, but had no idea there was going to be a eq/sol marker behind all those rocks. I dug into it on the 19th of september, and by chance was back looking at it at sunset on the 24th. The yellow triangle partially showed itself! Then I figured out what it was.
It is very difficult to photo, because I get in the way of the sun. I can see it happen best from 80 feet away with a scope.
WH

 

[sdcfia]

Here's a real shadow sign and an idea how it may have been used. Somebody noticed a soldier's helmeted head outline formed by the sun's shadow on this outcropping of bedrock and then carved the "happy man" petroglyph in its shadow. They didn't create the soldier, but they did notice its shape and used it. The soldier outline was likely only used to confirm the importance of the petroglyph that was carved in its shadow. The "happy man" petroglyph is the key and is interesting in its own right for reasons that won't be discussed here, but its most important aspect in this case is the zigzag he's holding in his right hand - it's a representation of the outline of a nearby jagged hogback ridge line directly in line with the zigzag carving. It all sounds complicated and its use is not yet fully explained, but there it is - somebody did it for a reason. What do you do next? Go over and check that ridge line, of course. That guy is probably happy for a reason.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Here's a real shadow sign and an idea how it may have been used. Somebody noticed a soldier's helmeted head outline formed by the sun's shadow on this outcropping of bedrock and then carved the "happy man" petroglyph in its shadow. They didn't create the soldier, but they did notice its shape and used it. The soldier outline was likely only used to confirm the importance of the petroglyph that was carved in its shadow. The "happy man" petroglyph is the key and is interesting in its own right for reasons that won't be discussed here, but its most important aspect in this case is the zigzag he's holding in his right hand - it's a representation of the outline of a nearby jagged hogback ridge line directly in line with the zigzag carving. It all sounds complicated and its use is not yet fully explained, but there it is - somebody did it for a reason. What do you do next? Go over and check that ridge line, of course. That guy is probably happy for a reason.

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Well why not discuss it here. On His chest is a message to read. It will tell you what to look at. Although you found what it was saying. On His His chest the numbers 17.7 and the words look up. It's Job 17-7. It says mine eyes also is dim by reason of sorrow and all my members are as a shadow. Know what your seeing is important. So enlighten us with more.

 

[AIORIA]

Here's a real shadow sign and an idea how it may have been used. Somebody noticed a soldier's helmeted head outline formed by the sun's shadow on this outcropping of bedrock and then carved the "happy man" petroglyph in its shadow. They didn't create the soldier, but they did notice its shape and used it. The soldier outline was likely only used to confirm the importance of the petroglyph that was carved in its shadow. The "happy man" petroglyph is the key and is interesting in its own right for reasons that won't be discussed here, but its most important aspect in this case is the zigzag he's holding in his right hand - it's a representation of the outline of a nearby jagged hogback ridge line directly in line with the zigzag carving. It all sounds complicated and its use is not yet fully explained, but there it is - somebody did it for a reason. What do you do next? Go over and check that ridge line, of course. That guy is probably happy for a reason.

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I have to say that is very interesting sdcfia. Thanks for posting it. What of the other symbols around this happy guy? It would seem that this guy is wearing a crown, and represents an authority. I may be way off but just a guess. I also see a the squared "U" carved and a 90 degree angle symbol carved; also what appears to be a faint circle and dot which means gold.

 

[sdcfia]

..........and how far is Cuco (que come la mesa) from your "happy man"? Any cardinal points that you can disclose?

Very astute observation, M1. Lucky guess, intuition or experience? I've disclosed everything elsewhere.

 

[Quinoa]

Newgrange still works, 5000 year old tomb/temple , winter solstice illumination on the inner hall, 1000's of people still gather to come to see it on that day. Many old churches have the same sort thing going on. It's "hidden" knowledge yet used in many religious/ holy places right out in front of everyone. There's no reason groups wouldn't use the same type things to mark treasure sites/ancient tombs/vaults.


https://www.newgrange.com/

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

Sdcfia, feel free to quote my posts, but when you do, quote my entire post.
No one likes to be partially quoted.

You would benefit by spending a little time with someone that is well educated in Burgos laws concerning signs, symbols
and monuments.
It would also help to read
“ de re Metallica “, it’s a little bit like reading a phone book, but it explains a great deal about how many people it takes to accurately build, mark, and operate a mine, and smelting /purification
Site.

It was translated from German to Spanish and then translated from Spanish to English.

Happy hunting!

Mikel
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[elh]

Absolutely correct, elh - thanks for unintentionally supporting my statement on this thread (where five of the posters on permanent IGNORE). As you ought to know, nearly all "searchers" have found absolutely nothing significant, and the self-proclaimed "finders" are self-serving liars.

sdcfia, thanks for the kind words, BUT, you got that one totally wrong good buddy. I do notsupport anything you have to say, with best wishes and luck to you of course, of course, because we love you because we know youare a sentinel, guvment man, or sumpin' like a' dat.

 

[elh]

Sdcfia, feel free to quote my posts, but when you do, quote my entire post.
No one likes to be partially quoted.

You would benefit by spending a little time with someone that is well educated in Burgos laws concerning signs, symbols
and monuments.
It would also help to read
“ de re Metallica “, it’s a little bit like reading a phone book, but it explains a great deal about how many people it takes to accurately build, mark, and operate a mine, and smelting /purification
Site.

It was translated from German to Spanish and then translated from Spanish to English.

Happy hunting!

Mikel
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de re Metallica
Mikel, never lend your books out. I lost my '' de re Metallica '' by lending it out, with good faith.

 

[Chadeaux]

de re Metallica
Mikel, never lend your books out. I lost my '' de re Metallica '' by lending it out, with good faith.

How about I "loan" you the one I have access to: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/38015/38015-h/38015-h.htm

When you look at the book, in your browser menu (works with Firefox) select "File>Save Page As" then select "Web Page Complete" as the format to save it in.

Not only will you have the book, you will also have the hyperlinks to make some searches easier. BTW, you can copy it to your phone or tablet for use in the field. Just remember that there is a 8.6 MB Folder with all of the images that you will need to include when you save it. The folder has the same name as the file.

On second thought, just keep it.

Or, if you prefer turning pages, try this one: https://archive.org/details/deremetallica50agri

EDIT: Ebook here http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/38015