Mountainrunner
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These are buckles and whatits I've dug up over the years and need some help identifying. The shield thing has a big "E" on it. Any help greatly appreciated.
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These are buckles and whatits I've dug up over the years and need some help identifying. The shield thing has a big "E" on it. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Mountainrunner, welcome to the "What-Is-It" forum, the best place on the internet for getting CORRECT identification of unknown objects. 
Although object #1 has been sold on Ebay as a Confederate Engineers saddle-shield emblem, they've been found with letters that have no military designation, such as F, N, T, and U. They are strictly from the 20th Century. See photos below.
Object #2 is a Colonial era brass shoebuckle frame, missing its working parts.
Object #4 is the the working parts (known as the chape) from a Colonial era shoebuckle.
Object #3 is a strap-adjuster, used on everything from horsegear straps to knapsack straps. Notice that one of the slots in it is wider than the other. Also notice that the slots are PERFECTLY rectangular. I believe the particular form you found dates from the late-1800s through today, because I've never seen that exact form on any civil war (or earlier) equipment. But of course, I could be wrong... I do not think I've already seen everything there is to see.
I do not recognize object #5. All I can say is, it "looks" Colonial-ish to me. But again, I could be wrong. I hope somebody else here can correctly ID it for you.
Object #6 is another version of strap-buckle. The flanges on its central bar were to keep the buckle's tongue well-centered. The flanges mean it dates from the late-1800s through today.
Object #7 is a form of horseharness "gag-swivel" called a "gem swivel." It dates from the very-late 1800s (or early-1900s) through today. See the scan from an early-1900s horsegear catalog, below.
Although object #1 has been sold on Ebay as a Confederate Engineers saddle-shield emblem, they've been found with letters that have no military designation, such as F, N, T, and U. They are strictly from the 20th Century. See photos below.
Object #2 is a Colonial era brass shoebuckle frame, missing its working parts.
Object #4 is the the working parts (known as the chape) from a Colonial era shoebuckle.
Object #3 is a strap-adjuster, used on everything from horsegear straps to knapsack straps. Notice that one of the slots in it is wider than the other. Also notice that the slots are PERFECTLY rectangular. I believe the particular form you found dates from the late-1800s through today, because I've never seen that exact form on any civil war (or earlier) equipment. But of course, I could be wrong... I do not think I've already seen everything there is to see.
I do not recognize object #5. All I can say is, it "looks" Colonial-ish to me. But again, I could be wrong. I hope somebody else here can correctly ID it for you.
Object #6 is another version of strap-buckle. The flanges on its central bar were to keep the buckle's tongue well-centered. The flanges mean it dates from the late-1800s through today.
Object #7 is a form of horseharness "gag-swivel" called a "gem swivel." It dates from the very-late 1800s (or early-1900s) through today. See the scan from an early-1900s horsegear catalog, below.
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Wow! Definitely came to the right place for ids. Thanks Cannonball Guy for your expertise.
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Nhbenz, I've been trying to find the correct ID of those shield-emblems for over 20 years. If you've got solid proof that they are a radiator-cap emblem, I will praise you to everybody in the civil war relic collecting community for absolutely eliminating these things as a "Confederate saddle-shield."
Important note:
As the photo below shows, the shield's body is curved, apparently to fit smoothly against a hollow metal tube or similarly curved metal surface. If for a tube, the tube's diameter would be approximately between 3 and 4 inches.
Notice that the three mounting-holes in them are strengthened by a raised flat rim encircling the hole. That indicates these shields were made to be attached by screws or rivets. They clearly were not intended to be attached to leather or cloth.
I've personally seen them with the letters A, C, E, F, M, N, T, and U. Do you know what the letters represent?
Important note:
As the photo below shows, the shield's body is curved, apparently to fit smoothly against a hollow metal tube or similarly curved metal surface. If for a tube, the tube's diameter would be approximately between 3 and 4 inches.
Notice that the three mounting-holes in them are strengthened by a raised flat rim encircling the hole. That indicates these shields were made to be attached by screws or rivets. They clearly were not intended to be attached to leather or cloth.
I've personally seen them with the letters A, C, E, F, M, N, T, and U. Do you know what the letters represent?
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Nhbenz, I've been trying to find the correct ID of those shield-emblems for over 20 years. If you've got solid proof that they are a radiator-cap emblem, I will praise you to everybody in the civil war relic collecting community for absolutely eliminating these things as a "Confederate saddle-shield."
Important note:
As the photo below shows, the shield's body is curved, apparently to fit smoothly against a hollow metal tube or similarly curved metal surface. If for a tube, the tube's diameter would be approximately between 3 and 4 inches.
Notice that the three mounting-holes in them are strengthened by a raised flat rim encircling the hole. That indicates these shields were made to be attached by screws or rivets. They clearly was not intended to be attached to leather or cloth.
I've personally seen them with the letters A, C, E, F, M, N, T, and U. Do you know what the letters represent?
Hey Pete .. Do a google search for Monogram Junior Radiator Caps .. You will find info there.
Link to a previous post where I posted the last two photographs. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/353651-looks-like-old-bicycle-name-plate-brass.html
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Mystery solved on the shield item. Thanks a million. That other item (#5) is pretty darn heavy. Looks as though it's made of brass/bronze. Really has me stumped.
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Happydance! Thank you VERY much for providing the rock-solid ID proof, Creskol.
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