A double colonial silver surprise!

Bill D. (VA)

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I've been trying to get myself onto a nice local site to hunt during the week, and decided to go back and check out some of the chancery court records I researched last year. I found one that was about a land dispute from 1802, and the documentation included a detailed plat map showing the property boundaries along with several house sites. One of the homes was labeled as "old house" which was very interesting. I then did a little bit of land patent research and found out this area was first settled around 1640, and the patentee's name was the same as the property owners shown on the chancery map. So I knew I was onto a good spot. I drove by the site yesterday afternoon, but the property was very intimidating with large brick columns on the main road followed by a long lane passing through a vineyard and horse farm leading to several homes with a magnificent view of the river from a high bluff. I decided to take a chance and drive back to the owner's house. She was an elderly lady who was a little standoffish at first, and I hadn't gotten the first 2 sentences out when she said "we don't allow any digging around here". The conversation almost ended right there, but as I began to show her the research materials I had printed out she became more friendly, and next thing I knew she invited me inside for a great 45 min chat. I also got permission to search the field, but she told me it had been hunted a lot over the years. She also told me a lot of fascinating history of the property including a visit from Captain John Smith, and the big Indian massacre in 1622. And she told me the W&M archaeology folks were turned down when they requested to do a major dig at this site. She then directed me to the exact spot where the long-gone house was located, and it was precisely in the same spot as indicated in the chancery records. I quickly found an iron patch (not very expansive or dense) and started working it slowly. But the targets were few and far between, and most were low tones as is usually the case when others have cherry picked a site. I dug a couple musketballs, several buckle pieces and leather ornaments, and 2 or 3 buttons, but not much for a 2 hour hunt. It was also apparent that just about all the finds were 18th century and not the 1600s I was hoping for. Not long before I was getting ready to head out I got a nice surprise when a little cut pistareen popped out. And then on the next row over another silver was revealed. Those coins were a welcome sight as this has been a very sub-par year for me in that department. Later when cleaning the finds what I thought was a flat button turned out to be a thin copper coin. I can barely see some lettering at a couple spots around the edge but not nearly enough to ID it. I also recovered a cool looking early pewter button with a star design on the front. The owner wants me to come back and sit down with her and her sister-in-law and go over all the research materials I have, and to make extra copies for them. That should ensure my permission remains intact. Also, the chancery map shows another early home close-by on the neighboring property, and she knows the owner well. That bodes well for possibly getting another permission, so hopefully both of these new sites will keep me busy until planting begins in a few weeks.
 

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I am planning on taking a similar approach this spring. I have located the spot that my 3RD Great Grandfather settled in 1799. I have a fair amount of information, books, maps, and other documents to present to the current owners when I ask for permission. If nothing else I may get to see the inside of the house that he built.

Great Silver!

VPR
 

I am planning on taking a similar approach this spring. I have located the spot that my 3RD Great Grandfather settled in 1799. I have a fair amount of information, books, maps, and other documents to present to the current owners when I ask for permission. If nothing else I may get to see the inside of the house that he built. Great Silver! VPR
I've got a similar situation with a 1718 site that one of my ancestors built a house on. Unfortunately the natives torched it a few years later but I'm really hoping the property owner will allow me to detect the site. Would be an amazing opportunity.
 

Great research! Glad they gave you the opportunity to have a "sit down" with them. Keep at it and keep us posted on all of your progress! -Chuck
 

Way to go Bill, you're humming along now! Just imagine what was originally pulled out of that place.

Yeah, that makes me sick thinking about what others may have found there. But as you know Joey, we spend most of our time looking for leftovers. Hard to find an early virgin site. But with patience we can usually be successful in most cases.
 

Nice work, amazing, you must have the "gift of gab" congrats!
 

Nice work, amazing, you must have the "gift of gab" congrats!

That comment made me laugh as I'm actually quite the opposite. I'm on the soft spoken side for the most part, and do not like knocking on doors at all, but do what I have to do to get into sites. But I do seem to have a good rapport with most of the elderly women I've come across ..... haha. And there's been quite a few of them, fortunately ......
 

You find more chips than any hunter I've seen! Congrats!

Thanks. I'm very fortunate to live in an area where cut silver was quite prevelant. I think I'm up to 74 or 75 cut pieces after digging these last two.
 

you should make her a display out of some of the items - she seems to be way more into history than most of the people who's fields I hunt - unless its gold - its hard to get some of them excited...
 

you should make her a display out of some of the items - she seems to be way more into history than most of the people who's fields I hunt - unless its gold - its hard to get some of them excited...

I already told her I'd do that. Just need to make sure she's gonna let me back in the field.
 

That's phenominal
 

Amazing how many cut Spanish circulated there.... there seems to be no other place like it!
 

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