5-year-old Interrogated By School Over Toy Cap Gun Until He Wet Himself With Fear

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5-year-old Interrogated By School Over Toy Cap Gun Until He Wet Himself With Fear

Then suspended for rest of the year

Steve Watson
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May 31, 2013

Yet another child barely out of nappies has been persecuted by school officials for playing with a toy gun on the school bus.

The Washington Post reports that the five-year-old from Dowell Elementary School in Lusby, Maryland was questioned by school officials for over two hours after he showed a friend his cowboy-style cap gun on the way to school.

Officials finally called the boy’s mother when he wet his pants. The mother told the Post that she found it highly unusual that her son soiled himself, indicating that he was very intimidated.

The report states that the boy’s parents bought him the plastic, orange-tipped cap gun at Frontier Town, a western-themed adventure centre. Following the interrogation, the boy told his mother that he had brought it to school because he had “really, really” wanted to show his friend, who had previously brought a water pistol to school.

The school’s principal told the mother that her son had pointed the toy at other students and pretended to shoot them, although the boy and his sister, who was also on the bus and subsequently questioned, say this is not the case.

The principal even stated that had the gun been “loaded” with caps, then it would have been “deemed an explosive and police would have been called in.”

The boy, who remains anonymous has been suspended from school for 10 days. “If the punishment stands, it would become part of the boy’s permanent school record and keep him out of classes the rest of the school year,” the report notes.

“The school was quite obviously taking it very seriously, and he’s 5 years old,” the boy’s mother said. “Why were we not immediately contacted?”

“I have no problem that he had a consequence to his behavior,” the mother added. “What I have a problem with is the severity.”

The family has hired attorney Robin Ficker, who was also the attorney involved in the infamous Hello Kitty bubble gun incident back in January, when school officials in Pennsylvania suspended a five-year-old girl for “threatening” class mates with the toy that contains a harmless soap solution. Officials were also said to have interrogated the girl for several hours, before notifying her parents.

Officials at the Mount Carmel school issued a statement describing the girl’s actions as “terroristic” and then refused to retract it following media coverage.

“Kids play cowboys and Indians,” Ficker stated with regards to the latest incident. He added that the boy’s age is important. “They play cops and robbers. You’re talking about a little 5-year-old here.”

He’s “all bugs and frogs and cowboys,” the boy’s mother added.

School officials said they cannot comment on the matter but have scheduled a “disciplinary conference” today to resolve it.

This latest knee-jerk overreaction to children playing with anything that even remotely resembles a gun comes just days after another kindergartner was punished by school officials and forced to apologise for bringing a tiny miniature lego gun onto a school bus.

The list of previous incidents of this nature is now so long that it has prompted Maryland Sen. J. B. Jennings to introduce a bill to stop such idiotic over reactions being played out over and over again in schools.

In March, a 7-year-old boy from Maryland was suspended for unintentionally biting his pop tart into the shape of a gun.

A third grader in Michigan was reprimanded by school officials when he brought a cupcake to school with a plastic toy soldier, holding a gun, on top of it.

A ten year old Virginia boy who was arrested for taking a plastic toy gun to school was forced to deal with a potentially permanent criminal record over the incident.

A student in Florence, Arizona was recently suspended because he had a picture of a gun on his computer.

A six-year-old kindergartner in South Carolina was suspended for taking a small transparent plastic toy gun to school for a show and tell.

A five-year-old in Massachusetts who faced suspension for building a small toy gun out of lego bricks and play-shooting his classmates.

We also reported on an incident that erupted when a discussion between two children about a toy nerf gun caused a lockdown and a massive armed police response at two elementary schools in the Bronx.

In another incident, a Long Island high school was also placed on lock down for 6 hours in response to a student carrying a toy nerf gun.

The nerf gun was once again the deadly weapon of choice as a university campus in Rhode Island was placed on lockdown, causing panic and minor injuries when a stampede to flee the building ensued.

In another incident, a teacher at Malden High School in Massachusetts who glimpsed sight of a “gun”, alerted police who rushed to the scene only to discover a neon water pistol. School officials then vowed to track down the suspect who brought the toy to school using surveillance cameras.

A South Philadelphia elementary student was searched in front of classmates and threatened with arrest after she mistakenly brought a “paper gun” to school.

A 6-year-old boy was suspended from his elementary school, also in Maryland, for making a gun gesture with his hand and saying “pow”.

Another two 6-year-olds in Maryland were suspended for pointing their fingers into gun shapes while playing “cops and robbers” with each other.

A couple of second grade students at a Virginia elementary school were recently suspended for two days after violating the school’s “zero tolerance” policy on weapons when they pointed pencils at other students and made gun noises.

In Oklahoma, a five-year-old boy was also recently suspended for making a gun gesture with his hand.

A 13-year-old Middle School seventh grade student in Pennsylvania was also suspended for the same hand gesture.

The terrorists really are everywhere these days.
 

Wetting his pants is just a defensive move the kid learned from a liberal law maker. It replaces the gun in a self defense situation.
 

Packerbacker: Actually, wetting ones pants is associated with a parasympathetic response. The body has two types of responses in these situations: parasympathetic and sympathetic. Sympathetic nervous system is what happens in a fight situation: pupils dilate, heart rate increases, blood pressure goes up and blood flow shifts away from the Gastrointestinal/gentiourital to the limbs, hands, and feet so we can be sharpest in times of fear. Parasympathetic is the response that happens when the sympathetic shuts down and the body returns to normal. A common fallacy is that one will wet their pants in a fear situation. The wetting of ones pants occurs when the fear abates and the parasympathetic returns body to normal function. So, if the boy wet his pants during interrogation then that would mean he was scared but stopped being scared and hence wet his pants. ;)
 

Ridiculous! What happened to common sense!
 

Ridiculous! What happened to common sense!

I don't understand. Wetting one's pants in a scary situation sounds like good sense to me. It shows acquiescence, smells bad, and usually causes the attacker/predator to relent.
 

This is the kind of BS I'm referring to. I'm sure the poor kid in this thread did not wet his pants for defensive purposes although some are convinced it eliminates the need for REAL self defense.

(CNN) — A Colorado school has caused a stir with an advisory that suggested women could urinate or vomit to deter a rape.
The list of 10 tips by the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs was billed as “last resort” options to deter a sexual assault.
“Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating,” read one tip.
“Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone,” read another.
 

The article stated, "The principal even stated that had the gun been “loaded” with caps, then it would have been “deemed an explosive and police would have been called in.”
Are you kidding me?? I suppose the bomb squad would have shown up along with SWAT. I'd like to think the whole town isn't as screwed up as the Berkeley-type "educators". What would they do with a stray kitten on the school grounds, call a lion tamer?........maybe a dart gun??
 

This is the kind of BS I'm referring to. I'm sure the poor kid in this thread did not wet his pants for defensive purposes although some are convinced it eliminates the need for REAL self defense.

(CNN) — A Colorado school has caused a stir with an advisory that suggested women could urinate or vomit to deter a rape.
The list of 10 tips by the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs was billed as “last resort” options to deter a sexual assault.
“Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating,” read one tip.
“Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone,” read another.

Whoever wrote this has no concept of what type of mindset it takes to rape somebody. I remember hearing this in an undergrad lecture and getting thrown out of the lecture hall for calling them out on how stupid and ridiculous this was.
 

Funny how I don't see you folks making posts like this... Yeh definitely over reacting to we all know a child would never bring a real gun to school. That never happens ... Actually some good stats in the article if you care to read it.

(CNN) -- A loaded handgun fell out of a student's pocket onto the lunchroom floor and discharged Tuesday, wounding him and two other kindergartners in a Houston elementary school, the school district said.
None of the injuries was considered life-threatening, Houston Independent School District spokesman Jason Spencer told CNN.
The school district and Houston police are investigating how the 6-year-old who brought the gun to school obtained the weapon, Spencer said. "It's a crime to make a gun available to a child."
The weapon discharged once, and the children may have been hit by bullet fragments, Spencer said.
Five-year-old Jarneshia Broussard, a student who witnessed the incident, told CNN Houston affiliate KTRK the gun "fell, and then it shot."
"We were by each other and then it shot and the little girl started crying," Jarneshia recalled.
The two boys and one girl, all of them kindergarten students at Ross Elementary School, were taken to a hospital and their parents were notified, Spencer said.
He did not know their specific conditions, but said "the prognosis is good for these kids."
The boy who reportedly brought the gun and a girl were wounded in the foot, Spencer said. The third student, a boy, was struck in the leg.
Concerned parents flocked to the school to check on their children, CNN Houston affiliate KTRK reported.
"We made a recorded call to every parent," Spencer told CNN.
In 2006-2007, the latest year in which statistics are available, nearly 2,700 students nationwide were expelled or disciplined for bringing a gun to school, said William Modzeleski, associate assistant deputy secretary for the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools.
About 15% of them were elementary school students, Modzeleski told CNN. Those numbers track the previous year's numbers, he added.
"It's a school, community and a family problem," the official said. "If you bring a gun to school, this is a crime."
In elementary school situations, the student might bring a gun in for "show and tell" or it might have been left in a backpack by a parent or stepparent, Modzeleski said. Parents must ensure a weapon is secured at home, and not simply hidden, he said.
The problem can be found in schools everywhere, he said. "We have to get kids on board" to solve the problem, Modzeleski said.
According to a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey, from 1993 to 2003 there was a decrease in the percentage of high school students who reported carrying a weapon on school property at least once in the past 30 days. There was no significant change between 2003 and 2009.
Many schools are pushing prevention and other methods, such as random "wanding" of students with hand-held electronic devices to detect metal, because pass-through metal detectors are costly to staff, are labor intensive and take away from time for teaching, Modzeleski said.
Houston Police will lead the investigation into Tuesday's incident.
The school district had three cases of students bringing guns in the last school year, all at elementary schools, Spencer said.
 

again...cherry picking. Don't drop yourself to their standards.
 

Has nothing to do with my 2nd amendment rights.

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Has nothing to do with my 2nd amendment rights.

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If you don't think the thread has anything to do with the 2nd you can certainly delete it.
 

This just breaks my heart for that little boy. Back in my husbands day( he is 60) cowboys were the good guys and to be looked up to and he proudly brandished his gun belt just like his heroes Chuck Connors,Roy Rogers,etc. What has happened to common sense?
 

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This just breaks my heart for that little boy. Back in my husbands day( he is 60) cowboys were the good guys and to be looked up to and he proudly brandished his gun belt just like his Herod Chuck Connors,Roy Rogers,etc. What has happened to common sense?

Read above. When you have hundreds of instances every year of little kids brining REAL guns into schools - sometimes accidentally shooting and killing themselves / others - why do you think this is an over reaction?

And if you think this is an over reaction wait until the NRA wackos get their way and all these "over reacting" teachers armed. Brilliant idea people, brilliant.
 

This just breaks my heart for that little boy. Back in my husbands day( he is 60) cowboys were the good guys and to be looked up to and he proudly brandished his gun belt just like his Herod Chuck Connors,Roy Rogers,etc. What has happened to common sense?

Why are parents letting these kids go to school with a toy gun? They know the school rules? I hold the parents responsible.
 

It was a toy and toys don't kill. The boy was five years old for goodness sake and probably his parents hadn't talked to him it about school incidents involving guns, he probably has no awareness of,he's too young. It is hard for kids to differentiate play vs. reality for sure and yes I can understand the no guns policy but I think that to scare a youngster so young is wrong,totally uncalled for and could have been handled differently.maybe the parents didn't know there was a toy gun in their son's backpack. Mine used to take all kinds of things that they probably shouldn't have. In a perfect world that wouldn't have happened.
 

It was a toy and toys don't kill. The boy was five years old for goodness sake and probably his parents hadn't talked to him it about school incidents involving guns, he probably has no awareness of,he's too young. It is hard for kids to differentiate play vs. reality for sure and yes I can understand the no guns policy but I think that to scare a youngster so young is wrong,totally uncalled for and could have been handled differently.

But you DONT KNOW its a toy when it is first pulled. These articles are written with after the fact knowledge - right? Of course it looks ridiculous know. But think of the fear and terror when its pulled. Think if an armed teacher is standing there? That "youngster so young" can easily have a real gun - right. Read the stats in the article i posted above of incidents of children brining real guns to school. Do you see why maybe they have to come down hard? It's just not as ridiculous or black/white as the article makes it seem.
 

Yes, it is just as ridiculous as the article makes it seem.....


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