41st of Foot Officers button? updated cleaned photos

[scratcher]

41st of Foot Officer's button? updated cleaned photos

Does anyone know if this is an officer's button? It has quite a bit of silver left on it. I can't find any reference to this maker. Does anybody have any info? Would anybody chance cleaning this button with naval jelly or is it too scarce? I haven't done anything yet with the front but rinse it with water. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I thought you guys might like to see it cleaned up. Thanks for the input so far, it looks like this one is kinda scarce. Please let me know if anybody comes up with anything.

 

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[John Deere Digger]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Nice find.
JDD

 

[time4me]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Sorry I can't help you with ID'ing it, but that is one sweet button!

Congrats on an awesome find!

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

I agree it's a 41st Regiment of Foot button... circa 1812.

There were a few different styles.  Below are some reenactment button examples.





The bottom word (back mark) is Dublin... where it was made. I can't find anything more on the maker either...

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Very nice. I don't think I would use something like the jelly on it. Probably just dip a toothbrush in hydrogen peroxide and very lightly brush it to bring out the silver a bit. A quick rinse and leave alone. The silver looks like it will flake easy so be careful, and you might want to seal it at the point your content with how it looks. An early officer button is always a good find.

 

[allen]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

that is a sweet find....congrats

 

[seger98]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Nice find, I agree wirth the guy above on the cleaning of it, poroxide & toothbrush, but don't be to harsh on it!

 

[crazyjarhead]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Nice 41st button. I wouldn't clean on it too much..........originality is better than having it look new

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Very nice. I don't think I would use something like the jelly on it. Probably just dip a toothbrush in hydrogen peroxide and very lightly brush it to bring out the silver a bit. A quick rinse and leave alone. The silver looks like it will flake easy so be careful, and you might want to seal it at the point your content with how it looks. An early officer button is always a good find.

Agreed, this will not clean up much more than it is. So leave it. Agreed with the IDs above.

 

[jmann2424]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Nice Find

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

An online friend of mine dug this one shortly before his death in 2004. It was a favorite find.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

It looks good as it is but if you want to know about cleaning other crusty buttons, ask Buckleboy or read this: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,165857.0.html

 

[Monty]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

The back looks like it has M Murphy among other things on it. Have you tried looking that up? Monty

 

[scratcher]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Monty, I tried every American and European website i know, but couldn't find this backmark. I'm thinking it is one of the earliest 41st designs from when they arrived in Canada in 1799 or so but not sure. I can scarcely find a picture of any of the early designs, let alone this one. Seems odd that noone has this maker listed. I need to buy a good button book for future references. Any suggestions?

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Monty, I tried every American and European website i know, but couldn't find this backmark. I'm thinking it is one of the earliest 41st designs from when they arrived in Canada in 1799 or so but not sure. I can scarcely find a picture of any of the early designs, let alone this one. Seems odd that noone has this maker listed. I need to buy a good button book for future references. Any suggestions?

Probably more 1812-1814 than 1799 but doesn't mean the button can't date early.

Do you know what the D word is in the backmark? If not I can probably get that far.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Monty, I tried every American and European website i know, but couldn't find this backmark. I'm thinking it is one of the earliest 41st designs from when they arrived in Canada in 1799 or so but not sure. I can scarcely find a picture of any of the early designs, let alone this one. Seems odd that noone has this maker listed. I need to buy a good button book for future references. Any suggestions?

Probably more 1812-1814 than 1799 but doesn't mean the button can't date early.

Do you know what the D word is in the backmark? If not I can probably get that far.

As mentioned, by someone else - Dublin.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Monty, I tried every American and European website i know, but couldn't find this backmark. I'm thinking it is one of the earliest 41st designs from when they arrived in Canada in 1799 or so but not sure. I can scarcely find a picture of any of the early designs, let alone this one. Seems odd that noone has this maker listed. I need to buy a good button book for future references. Any suggestions?

Probably more 1812-1814 than 1799 but doesn't mean the button can't date early.

Do you know what the D word is in the backmark? If not I can probably get that far.

As mentioned, by someone else - Dublin.

Probably but it almost looks like a G at the end.

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Yea... I've been looking for Irish, dublin, button, m.murphy, back mark, on and on... and have had no luck on line.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Here's another clue guys... from a button dating just a little later

Murphy 110 Bride St Dublin

 

[BioProfessor]

Re: 41st of Foot Officer's button?

Take a look here. It lists all the buttons we've found hunting around Colchester, UK.

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numberedregiments.htm

Daryl