3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

[Don in SJ]

3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Last couple hunts have been an experience for me with a back problem making detecting a very tasking hobby, but I prevailed thru the weekend at least and got rewarded for my efforts with a great hunt on Saturday.

First, last week I got out for a short hunt and checked out the 1793 Cent site again, with just a couple more buttons being found, so as I was hiking back to the truck I spotted a dumpy area that seemed like it was a old road rather than a more modern logging road. I checked it out real quick and got rewarded with a stray dropped KGIII Halfpenny, not in the best of shape, but it is a keeper.


On Thursday this week I went back to that area to make sure it was or was not a homestead there, (there was not) so one the way back I stopped at one of my sites that was very giving last year and it gave up another nice button and a 1825 Large Cent, now the 1825 was appreciated more than usual by me since it filled a hole, I never found that year for some reason.


So that brings us to yesterday, I was looking forward to getting a hunt in with my son, only our second hunt together this year and I took my pain pills and was determined to get at least one more hunt in for the month or so. With the back aching, I said I did not want to do a lot of walking so we did have a site that my son found back in December that he did great at on his first hunt, think it was 4 coins or so and we did hit it together for our first hunt of the year in late January before the snows came. So, we went there, since the chances of finding a Colonial Copper were great there, becuase we both found a KGIII there previously.

As soon as we reached the area, I got a hunk of metal similar to a trigger guard, but not sure really what it is, so maybe someone can chime in.


Shortly thereafter, I got a nice coin signal, called my son over, he listened to the signal before I dug and of course snapped a photo of dear ole dad and again of the recovery.

Yes, it was a copper, and a nice one two, sure looked liked a colonial, even dirty (It was)

Well, right after that recovery and only two feet away I got a funky reading and out pops a fatty copper, was not sure if a fat IH or a Flying Eagle cent, but after cleaning, Flying Eagle won out!

My son said I was finding stuff a bit uphill from the main site but it was very close to where he found a fattie IH on his first trip there in December. No sooner than he got back to where he was swinging I got another coin reading.
Another copper which was now #3, shortly thereafter that I got my fourth copper and now my son was getting anxious and of course I wanted him badly to find the next coin, but no, about a half hour of brush beating later, I got copper number 5 for the day.
So here are my 4 Large Coppers found yesterday





We were getting close to quiting and thank goodness I finally heard the yell I was waiting for from my son, "COIN" so I rushed over to where he was detecting and watched him recover his one and only copper for the day, but it was a bonus coin, a fat copper with a lettered edge! After cleaning it was a Liberty Cap and the date was nowhere easily seen but I attributed the variety and it is a 1794 Sheldon 59 , so my son was happy with his "consolation copper" ( I would have been also) We have had many hunts like this over the years where one makes a killing and the other is snakebit, so we were glad that at least both of us got some coins today.


I forgot to mention, right after I found the 3rd copper, I spotted the beautiful half a antler rack of a deer that not to long ago shedded the antler, so I ended up carrying that around for about two hours, too big to fit into the storage pockets on my fishing vest.

Also, something that has never happened on an old site like that, neither of us got a button today, my son did get some broken pewter spoon parts but the relics were not be found that day.

Overall a great week for me hunting wise and a rotten one back wise, but I will get out again hopefully sooner than later.

Don

 

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[FortBedfordbob]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 3 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

WTG Don, Great Finds ! Love them Coppers

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 3 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagl

Just when I was starting to count you out! Now that is a copper haul!

 

[swent1]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 3 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

sounds like a great hunt espically since it was with your son congrats

 

[ironhorse]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 3 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

super job on the hunt Don!!


those early American coppers are simply awesome!

 

[timekiller]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 3 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

That's showing how it's done Sorry to hear about the back Don hope it get's to doing better for you! I'm a little younger but know about back problems, wrecks,type of work I've done,being tall,Makes for a bad combination.I think the worst came when I jumped off a Scallop boat one time with a full bottle of oxygen from a cutting torch (the big bottles) on my shoulder.Man when I hit down on the dock and that bottles weight came down I could feel my vertebra smash together.It was not a smart move but when young you know how it is.Anyway not been right since.As it comes and goes.But back to the finds Love them & great clean job as the Norm.

 

[Brian(upstateNY-Central Fla.)]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Super super diggin Don grats too you again on them coppers and Dan will make it up somewhere along the line

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Super super diggin Don grats too you again on them coppers and Dan will make it up somewhere along the line

Actually I was just returning the favor, a week ago Friday when he made a quick hunt on the way home from work, he got FIVE coppers, 1 Draped Bust Half Cent, 2 Draped Bust Large Cents, 1 Classic Head Large Cent and 1 Coronet type Large Cent.............

Such a great hobby this is at times.

Don

 

[Gator-Flea]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Nice finds..........

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

I posted the colonial coppers on the C4 forum and to my surprise one of the KGIII's I found is a Batty 3826B variety, no date purposely not applied on non clipped example but 1784/5 is the time frame. This is my second one, when i found that one two years ago, only 3 were known to exist, now the number is up to 7 with this discovery and I own 2 of the 7.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagl

I posted the colonial coppers on the C4 forum and to my surprise one of the KGIII's I found is a Batty 3826B variety, no date purposely not applied on non clipped example but 1784/5 is the time frame. This is my second one, when i found that one two years ago, only 3 were known to exist, now the number is up to 7 with this discovery and I own 2 of the 7.

That's what I thought when you posted it, but since you didn't say anything, I didn't! So what is the deal on both being clipped? Isn't that sort of odd? Do you know if the others are also?

I read your post again and you believe your coin is broken and not clipped at all?

 

[Shadowmanflash]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Hey Don, great finds and story to boot, man there sure is a lot of good ones coming on here today, good luck to you and keep it coming, Ken.

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagl

I posted the colonial coppers on the C4 forum and to my surprise one of the KGIII's I found is a Batty 3826B variety, no date purposely not applied on non clipped example but 1784/5 is the time frame. This is my second one, when i found that one two years ago, only 3 were known to exist, now the number is up to 7 with this discovery and I own 2 of the 7.

That's what I thought when you posted it, but since you didn't say anything, I didn't! So what is the deal on both being clipped? Isn't that sort of odd? Do you know if the others are also?

I asked that same question to Byron W who did the study and the CNL article on them and the 1784 Machins Mills coppers. I don't remember the others being clipped, but only knew of three others besides my first one till today. I probably had photos of one or two of them but may have lost them when my old computer crashed. I will ask Byron, but fairly certain they were not all clipped since he mentioned the others were not dated, so it is interesting that the two I found both are clipped, it just might mean something on their history.......

Also, I never looked at the KGIIIs closely at all, took me forever to attribute the varieties of the three Conn coppers, not an easy thing to do, David P verified my variety IDs were correct so glad all the time I took today to ID them paid off. Only once did I give the clipped planchet KGIII a thought about it being a Batty 3826B but never pursued looking at it closely.

 

[VERMONTPACKRAT]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Your vest must get heavy near the end of your hunts. No wonder your back hurts. Carrying arround all of those coins..........

How do you do it? Thanks for the awsome post

VPR

 

[boondocker]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

What a great hunt hope your back feels better so you can get out there some more. Dean

 

[EARTHWORKS]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

WOW: I only wish!

 

[Jaygee Western MA]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

i believe that they used to cut off portions of coins to be used for trade, real nice finds. yup I'm jealous

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagl

I posted the colonial coppers on the C4 forum and to my surprise one of the KGIII's I found is a Batty 3826B variety, no date purposely not applied on non clipped example but 1784/5 is the time frame. This is my second one, when i found that one two years ago, only 3 were known to exist, now the number is up to 7 with this discovery and I own 2 of the 7.

That's what I thought when you posted it, but since you didn't say anything, I didn't! So what is the deal on both being clipped? Isn't that sort of odd? Do you know if the others are also?

I asked that same question to Byron W who did the study and the CNL article on them and the 1784 Machins Mills coppers. I don't remember the others being clipped, but only knew of three others besides my first one till today. I probably had photos of one or two of them but may have lost them when my old computer crashed. I will ask Byron, but fairly certain they were not all clipped since he mentioned the others were not dated, so it is interesting that the two I found both are clipped, it just might mean something on their history.......

Also, I never looked at the KGIIIs closely at all, took me forever to attribute the varieties of the three Conn coppers, not an easy thing to do, David P verified my variety IDs were correct so glad all the time I took today to ID them paid off. Only once did I give the clipped planchet KGIII a thought about it being a Batty 3826B but never pursued looking at it closely.

Seeing it was clipped and not a typical George bust instantly made me think of your other one.

I'd say clipping them was a way to keep them in circulation because a 1780s date might as well say I'm counterfeit.

 

[sscindercoop]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Congrats on all the copper

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Man Don you 2 had a killer day. Those Conn coppers are in great shape. I love the Liberty Cap thicky. Tell your son I said so.
Chris