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oldfireguy said:I don't think CSA officers wore shoulder straps. They had their rank embroidered on their collars. Union officers wore straps but they didn't look like that. There made of cloth and embroidered with wire.
Kiros32 said:My only question would be, would a 2nd Lt. wear a gold shoulder bar? Gold was a thing of privilege and wealth then as it is now. Not saying that there were no 2nd Lt.'s with the means, however, if I was his ranking officer, I wouldn't want him wearing such an item.
MKnTenn said:On the fastening device on the back it looks strange to be a pin, have you looked closely to see what kind of attachments were on those spots? I'm not sure what it is but it was a great find, I would be very happy to find it. HH
dg39 said:I answered this in a previous post. It was a bar pin or ladies hair pin. The mounting is of that style and from late 1800's to early 1900's.
Style and craftmanship is from a later period than the civil war. I base this on almost 40 years of working in the antique field.
But I have been wrong before...
DG
oldfireguy said:Bars were not worn on uniforms until 1917 for Lt's. It's possible this is some sort of ribbon attachment but I doubt it's a military rank.
I'm not sure when sweetheart items came out because it's not my area of interest but could it be a sweetheart item for a female?
dg39 said:I answered this in a previous post. It was a bar pin or ladies hair pin. The mounting is of that style and from late 1800's to early 1900's.Style and craftmanship is from a later period than the civil war. I base this on almost 40 years of working in the antique field.
But I have been wrong before...
DG
oldfireguy said:Bars were not worn on uniforms until 1917 for Lt's. It's possible this is some sort of ribbon attachment but I doubt it's a military rank.
I'm not sure when sweetheart items came out because it's not my area of interest but could it be a sweetheart item for a female?
dg39 said:Would not the border design be consistant with the cloth device?
DG
You gave an opinion in the previous post which was wrong it's far to heavily made for your guess it's a name bardg39 said:I answered this in a previous post. It was a bar pin or ladies hair pin. The mounting is of that style and from late 1800's to early 1900's.
Style and craftmanship is from a later period than the civil war. I base this on almost 40 years of working in the antique field.
But I have been wrong before...
DG
oldfireguy said:The "army" didn't start doing it till 1917... the confederacy was doing it for its shavetails 55 years earlier...
My reference was post civil war. I believe the bar they are talking about is the embroidered collar device. I am not aware of pin on rank devices being used during the CW.