.... ohhh.. i expect metal detectorist to discredit me again......
No more so than your replying to my content is "discrediting" me or my content. It's just pro & con discussion.
I very much am interested in the mindset psychology of each view. The psychology of how people respond when shown other explanations. That's what I'm intrigued with.
Because I too "chased treasures" (Mexico in my case) of stories that were being told to me. That sounded sseeeoooo good.
But later, after zero results (much like yourself), I began to question
the very stories themselves . Began to re-quiz my guides as to their sources, their reasons for believing them to be true, etc... And began to see that I too had merely been wrapped up in treasure fever . And had not done my critical questioning homework BEFORE the hunt. So that I could have saved 3 weeks of my life, driving thousands of miles. Hence now my fascination with the psychology of how the human mind acts when it comes to treasure
as i have said, i dont have any proof of the existence of the yamashita treasure.....
True. Nor do I have concrete "dis" proof
But while you might not have proof of the existence, yet it is clear from your writings that you very much believe there is Yamashita treasure(s) to be found. Right ?
. ...when you find yamashita treasure based on metal detector, you are exactly on the spot where the japanese would like you to go, their decoy location and their decoy spot. the spirit of the japanese engineer who designed the japanese burial system and who have already died will laugh their ass off at you for being fooled by them......
As for false targets that gave a beep to the metal detector: Is it not possible that it is random metal targets? And not "decoys" placed to fool future metal detectors ? I mean, after all: Metal debris (junk, building material, etc...) is all over the planet everywhere. Why then is metal that we dig up (that turns out not to be the treasure) necessarily "decoy" material ? Perhaps it just routinely randomly occurring discarded metal ?
This is a perfect example of the treasure fever psychology: a) the believer finds junk and thinks "
aha ! a decoy target!", while b) the skeptic finds junk and thinks:
"aha, junk" 
.... japanese buried treasures are designed to be out of reach by metal detectors....
Another great example: The skeptic gets zero signal from his metal detector and thinks: "
There's no metal (or treasures, etc...) here". While the believer gets zero signals from his metal detector and thinks
"The treasure is most certainly here, but it's just deeper beyond the reach of the detector". See ? At no point is the believer to be dissuaded. It's just deeper.
That's what's gone on at Oak Island after all : They go 50 ft., well then it must be 70 ft. So they go 70, well then it must be 100 ft, and so forth. At no point is the treasure not there. That is not an option to conclude.
....the real treasure vault, if accidentally discovered even without using a metal detector , will still slide and disappear because of engineering and sliding design. it is bound to slide on a tunnel system 3 timess. the more you go after it, it will slide further to the 2nd spot, and if you go after it at the 2nd spot location, the vault will slide into the 3rd spot. by the 3rd spot, you are already dealing with an underground aquifer. it is already thrown into an aquifer where there is moving water. we know how to find aquifers (not watersheds) and underground rivers/streams (cracks on the ground that are water bearing) based on various years of experience and training.....
This is one way to explain when a team comes up with no treasure. That the treasure was cleverly engineered to disappear when/if someone later attempted to recover it. This level of forethought and engineering is entirely possible. However, to me, the *more plausible* explanation is: Nothing was there in the first place. Ask yourself if this alternate explantion isn't more of the odds-on-favorite ?
.... dispelling the notion that all of us Filipinos are here lying on this forum, looking for financiers by convincing others that yamashita treasure exist. hey, i am not here looking for financing......
I have already told you that I believe your sincerity. I know you are not looking for financing. That is not in question.
..., it could just be ordinary cement septic tanks with their feces hidden inside it.....
renantagum, this is what's known as "getting lost in the example"
I gave, as an example, my friend who ... while searching for the yamashita treasure, found a septic tank instead. That was just an example of something that could be found (that, in their mind's eyes, seemed at first like a giant treasure chamber). And, of course, turned out to be something else.
The only reason I gave you that example, was NOT to imply that "the things you found were likely to be septic tanks". Instead the reason I gave that example, was to show that things we find could be other things.
Naturally you could come up with 10 reasons why your particular target was NOT a "septic tank". Of course. But that was not the point . It was only an example. To illustrate how there *could* be other explanations aside from "treasure". I have utterly no idea what it was you found. If I were there, to have seen it, perhaps I could have come up with an explanation.
