1865 2 cent error?

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

As some of you know I found a 1865 2 cent piece. It turns out that one side is at more of an angle than the otherside it was stamped turned. Anyone know how much of a value this will add if any? If you all want to see a pic just ask and I will post one.

 

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[Pooley]

go ahead and post the pic!!! Where did you find it?? how deep?

 

[FoxHound0985]

I believe what you have there would be what is called a "rotated die" error. It is where one of the dies (either obverse or reverse) was rotated to the left or right of the center point. I'm sure you know that if you hold a US coin by the rim with the image pointing up and turn the coin around, the other image should be perfectly upside-down. Rotated die errors are valued according to the degree of rotation (180 degrees, 45 degrees, 90 degrees and so on) 180 degrees being where it was rotated to where both images are right-side up. The more the rotation, the more value. It is fairly common on older coins, but still worth more than normal collector value. Great find BTW! I hope this helps. HH!

Fox

 

[miester]

If you post pic. I've got grading software.

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Thank you Fox that helps a lot. You can see pics here http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,11834.0.html
You can't see the "rotated die" error in these pics because I straighted the coin each picture. If you people really want to see the picture of the error let me know and I guess I can take more pictures.

HH!!

 

[lonewolfe]

Here's your 2 cent piece after I cropped it, lightened it, and did some work to get the details to show so that I could get an idea of what condition it is in.

The best I can gather from the pic w/o actually seeing/holding the coin in my hand is, it seems to be in EF condition making it about a $40 coin (but) that is only IF there isn't corrosion, pitting & porosity from being a "dug" coin. If there is any corrosion, pitting & porosity at all, the value is maybe 1/2 of the above.

As for the "rotated reverse" - in estimation, 50% or more coins struck in the early/mid 1800s have this feature because of problems with the methods in which coins were struck.

It does not add to the value of a coin (unless) the rotation is severe (like 50% rotation or more and then it doesn't add a lot of value anyway unless again, it's an extremely rare coin to begin with) but generally, most coins will have a rotation in the 10 to 15% range.

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Thank you lonewolfe for the time you spent on my coin. It seems some corrosion may be on the obverse. This brings me to another question. I know they say you should not clean coins. What I can figure, that is just to some degree. Example : You dig a coin and you can't clean it to make it look mint. You can however clean it to make it visable. Should I clean this coin more? Thanks,

HH!!

 

[lonewolfe]

If the coin already has corrosion on it, then cleaning it won't affect the value any further mud (unless you destroy it).

If it were me, I'd clean it with baking soda tooth paste, and a tooth brush until it was the best I could get it.

HH

Lonewolfe

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Thank you,

lonewolfe, your information and advise always proves valuable and precise.

Thanks again and HH!!