***1864 "L" Indian Head ***DOUBLE DIE*** My oldest & rarest coin yet

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***1864 "L" Indian Head ***DOUBLE DIE*** My oldest & rarest coin yet

O.K. Folks, I'm having a serious silver slump here in good old NC. Last weeks mid-1800's house looked like a dream, but not one silver coin. Not even a Rosie. :-\
Today I started another house down the road a bit. This one was built in 1843, sits in a wealthy area, and was built by a doctor.
Right off the bat I dug two IH's. One was an 1880, and the other an 1864 (semi key date & my oldest so far).
Again, NO SILVER!!! :'( If these old IH's were still there, I would think the property has never been detected. :icon_scratch:
The dark black soil is soft as butter and you can literally push your digger a foot deep in areas with no problem.
I dug lots of rusty iron, nails, pull tabs, clad quarters, dimes, and nickels.
I was started having second thoughts about my machine, but if I'm digging deep clad and other relics, so I would think if there was silver to be had I would find it.
If my Tesoro found a tiny half dime in a field, then certainly it should be able to find silver in a yard. :dontknow:
My only thoughts are: (1) the silver is too deep, or (2) the cold temps are not allowing the machine to operate properly. ???
WHAT DO YOU FOLKS THINK??? Any input?
After watching Captn Dan constantly dig up deep silver I'm starting to wonder if I should get me a Minelab SE. :icon_scratch:
This was my first attempt and I still have lots to cover, so we'll see what happens. It's not easy getting permission to detect these old houses, and maybe I get my hopes up too high with visions of sugar plums silver dancing in my head. ;D :wink:
Now that I got my crying done, here's my finds:

*1864 and 1880 IH's.

*Wheats- 1912, 30 , 35 (x2) , 40, 51, 52.

*Railroad nail/spike with a large "G" and "36" on the head. Is that 1936?

*Tootsietoy Jeep & Hotwheels "Sand Drifter" (1974)

*Tiny cast metal toys- Tophat , plane, train.

*Asst'd lantern parts, pocket knife, keys, etc.

Thanks for looking,
MM
 

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Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

~ Nick P. ~ said:
Stellar Assortment Lish ... :thumbsup:

The I.H. bonanza is SPLENDORIFFIC ...

Heck looks like a great hunt to me ~ Nick

Thanks Nick.
No CC token, but I did score a "Putt-Well" token. :thumbsup:
-Lish-
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Those CW period IH are hard to find much less in the condition your coin is in. Great Finds as usual. HH.
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

VOL1266-X said:
Those CW period IH are hard to find much less in the condition your coin is in. Great Finds as usual. HH.

Geez, I'm an idiot. I didn't even think about that IH being a CW date coin. It has some great detail to it, and may try to clean it up a bit more with just water and a Q-tip. I can read "Liberty" easily.
Thanks VOL,
MM
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Now I don't feel so bad. If YOU can't find silver then there can't be any left to find. I think B|lker got it all.

You sure found a bunch of "stuff" though. Keep 'em coming, bud.
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

A minelab might be a good way to start over but I'm kinda partial to them ;D anyway, I wouldn't kick about not finding silver if I found those Indian heads, that 64 is in great condition and is an awesome find all in itself! the rest of your finds ain't bad either.

I'll trade ya a silver rosie for the 64 IH ::)

Keep at it, there's silver in them thar hills.


Chris
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

rwsnc said:
Now I don't feel so bad. If YOU can't find silver then there can't be any left to find. I think B|lker got it all.

You sure found a bunch of "stuff" though. Keep 'em coming, bud.

Bob,
I was dreaming of some 1800's silver finally and didn't dig as much as a Rosie. :-\ What a bummer. :wink:
-Doug-
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

seger98 said:
A minelab might be a good way to start over but I'm kinda partial to them ;D anyway, I wouldn't kick about not finding silver if I found those Indian heads, that 64 is in great condition and is an awesome find all in itself! the rest of your finds ain't bad either.

I'll trade ya a silver rosie for the 64 IH ::)

Keep at it, there's silver in them thar hills.
Chris

Chris,
That's a tough one buddy, but I'll have to keep the IH. I'll trade my wheats for your Rosie. :wink: :thumbsup:
-Doug-
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Nice finds MM,

Those sites you hunt are beautiful. I can feel your pain about the silver. I've talked to alot of old timers. And it was like this. Back in the day maybe 25 yrs ago you would receive permission to hunt a yard just like you did.

People back in the day trusted people more. Well next thing you know the neighbor would come out and offer to let you hunt there yard also. Next thing you knew you hunted the whole block.

They would silver pick them over. Leave the iron to the penny range disc out. Your unit is in the range where the silver is. If your getting indians and wheats you'll find the silver to. It's just been picked over yard. You may find a stragler here and there.

Keep up the good work. I'm dieying to go out and hunt. I got some really great sites through research I wanna go check. I hope they pan out. I found a pre 1850 ghost town on a map from 1876. Still there and intact. Had 18 homesteads down in the woods. I think this may be a overlooked ghost town. No research on the town any where.

Can't wait till spring

HH Jer
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Hey Modern Miner , You remind me of me , back a few months ago I was getting a bad case of

"detector envy" after reading an endless stream of posts from Silverfreak and the Captain , and

they were scoring deep and old and multiple Barbers and Indians. Well I was just about ready

to turn in my MXT and get a high end "down under" detector and then some mature detectorists

reminded me that the aforementioned dudes have been in the game for over 30 years . By the

way , those Tesoros have a reputation for going deep ! And we all recently saw Kuger's post

where his MXT scored those beautiful seated liberty halves and the 10 dollar gold piece ! So

I'm content to get cozy with my MXT and just go slow and enjoy the ride . Peace, Argentium.
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Those are some nice finds Doug. Congrats on that 1864 injun. :thumbsup:
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Nice couple of hunts and finds! Date nail is nice, I haven't seen any with a letter on them. HH from frozen hard Germany, Mike
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

no one has mentioned the L have ya looked yet? im talking about the 1864. willy.
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

look at you go doug! keep persistant there is lots land lots of silver here in our neck of the woods! :wink: :wink:
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Nice finds. The houses were probably hunted back in the 70's is my guess. I hunted a lot of houses in the 60' and 70's and other people are hunting them now and are wondering where all the silver is. Back then when I got most the silver I moved on to another yard.
Dman
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

My Bad,
Did more research and came up with this on the page I posted earlier.. ( was late).
http://fantasticprices.com/DateNail/Railroad.htm#faq
I guess no monograms or railroads ever put their name on the nail.
You can find it in here I don't have a copy

Date Nails and Railroad Tie Preservation
By Jeff Oaks
Published by s.n., 1999
559 pages
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Nice finds Miner. Those two Injuns sure are pretty! I'm in a silver slump too, it will come. I've been hunting a 1800s site alot recently, finding lots of relics and buttons but no real good coins yet. GL man
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

I confess. I did it.


MM, the reason you aren't finding silver in the yards could be that they were cherrypicked during the silver boom years ago. Stick to the fields and you'll find 'em.



Best Wishes,



Buckles
 

Re: Who sucked up all the silver in the Raleigh area??? 1864 IH - my oldest!!!

Modern Miner,

I agree that a lot of the yards may have been cherry-picked long ago. I had the opportunity to hunt a great 1892 home on a corner lot last summer, it looked as promising as ever. However, the only old coins I dug were wheats- about 10 of them, including two 1909's. However, I did dig a silver money clip- I guess some people just didn't drop silver coins. It's highly unlikely, but it's not unheard of. Good luck in your hunts, I won't be out for a long time yet!

Joe
 

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