1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- Restoration COMPLETE! - 6 March
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 2 March
Today was "D" Day (Do it Day)
I submerged the photo into Ammonia and Water mixture, I was greatly concerned about whether the copper chloride would adhere to the portrait as it was dissolved by the mixture, At first there was a problem, I was a bit cautious intially only submerged about 1/4" of it in the solution. Well, after a few hours of doing it and rotating the sides into the solution, I noticed the solution "wicked up" into the portrait area, and left a blue scum line!! 
So, I made the decision to go all the way and completely submerged the photo into the ammonia and water (2.5 to 1 mixture).
That was the answer, I am not done with this portion of the conservation but almost. I am showing photos of how it looked when I started , then at one hour, then at two hours.
I am now at almost four hours of soaking and 99% of all the blue is gone. Once that is off, I will soak in distilled water till I am ready to do the electrolysis portion, hoping it clears up some of the foggy appearance.
I plan on trying the electrolysis sometime late tomorrow or Thursday morning, must go out pingin in the AM :> The darkness on the photos is from using a different light source for the last two pics.
Don
Today was "D" Day (Do it Day)
I submerged the photo into Ammonia and Water mixture, I was greatly concerned about whether the copper chloride would adhere to the portrait as it was dissolved by the mixture, At first there was a problem, I was a bit cautious intially only submerged about 1/4" of it in the solution. Well, after a few hours of doing it and rotating the sides into the solution, I noticed the solution "wicked up" into the portrait area, and left a blue scum line!! So, I made the decision to go all the way and completely submerged the photo into the ammonia and water (2.5 to 1 mixture).
That was the answer, I am not done with this portion of the conservation but almost. I am showing photos of how it looked when I started , then at one hour, then at two hours.
I am now at almost four hours of soaking and 99% of all the blue is gone. Once that is off, I will soak in distilled water till I am ready to do the electrolysis portion, hoping it clears up some of the foggy appearance.
I plan on trying the electrolysis sometime late tomorrow or Thursday morning, must go out pingin in the AM :> The darkness on the photos is from using a different light source for the last two pics.
Don
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
It is really comming along great, this is one of the posts I am really excited to get to read each update!
It is really comming along great, this is one of the posts I am really excited to get to read each update!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Outstanding... your photodocumentary of this project is awesome Don!
Outstanding... your photodocumentary of this project is awesome Don!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
IF this comes out pretty decent, considering how bad it is/was, I will group together in one reply a complete procedure...
I could almost get some enjoyment out of sending the before and final after to the Conservator who quoted 500-1000, with no guarantee of being decent. Also, he questioned whether it was a Daguerreotype, thought perhaps it was a unusual paper one.
Nope
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Montana Jim said:
IF this comes out pretty decent, considering how bad it is/was, I will group together in one reply a complete procedure...
I could almost get some enjoyment out of sending the before and final after to the Conservator who quoted 500-1000, with no guarantee of being decent. Also, he questioned whether it was a Daguerreotype, thought perhaps it was a unusual paper one.
Nope Don
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Don,
I finally heard back from my photo restoration friend, and he has looked at your post as a guest. He said that in order to spare the expense of a high-dollar restoration, your method will be pretty good--and will still allow further work to be done on the photo in the future should you decide. He only cautioned me about the importance of not leaving it in the Ammonia too long.
-Will
Don,
I finally heard back from my photo restoration friend, and he has looked at your post as a guest. He said that in order to spare the expense of a high-dollar restoration, your method will be pretty good--and will still allow further work to be done on the photo in the future should you decide. He only cautioned me about the importance of not leaving it in the Ammonia too long.
-Will
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
I have to say this is one of the most interesting finds I have ever seen, and watching this process unfold has kept me checking back. I can't wait to see the final outcome!
I have to say this is one of the most interesting finds I have ever seen, and watching this process unfold has kept me checking back. I can't wait to see the final outcome!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Thanks Will, well at least the soak portion is over, the portrait is now in distilled water till my next step, which is the electrolysis. After I detect tomorrow, I will then come up with some type of setup to hang the portrait vertically and hang the anode (mercury dime) in front of the portrait, centered as much as possible, then garner enough courage to do this step!
Now, I hope the electrolysis works.
Attached photo is when it came out of case and as it is right now.
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Thanks Will, well at least the soak portion is over, the portrait is now in distilled water till my next step, which is the electrolysis. After I detect tomorrow, I will then come up with some type of setup to hang the portrait vertically and hang the anode (mercury dime) in front of the portrait, centered as much as possible, then garner enough courage to do this step!
Now, I hope the electrolysis works.
Attached photo is when it came out of case and as it is right now.
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Wow, it's really looking great, for something in the ground for so many years. Best of luck on the next step!
Wow, it's really looking great, for something in the ground for so many years. Best of luck on the next step!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Wow fantastic, it really looks great!
Wow fantastic, it really looks great!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
You know Don, one of the most amazing things about finding this portrait is that there may be literally No other surviving portraits of this person. As is frequently the case with folks, very little is left behind by them. Heck, there may not even be any journals, handwriting, records, signed belongings, or anything else. The way I see it, this portrait could be the only surviving remnant of that specific person's life--and all the rest is now long gone and forgotten. I can't imagine the experience of looking at this item--such an expensive and beloved item for the owner--for the first time after all the intervening years. I think that's why this find is so great for me to see posted here.
Have you given much thought to how you're going to do the electrolysis? I assume you're going to do it very slowly?
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Buckleboy
You know Don, one of the most amazing things about finding this portrait is that there may be literally No other surviving portraits of this person. As is frequently the case with folks, very little is left behind by them. Heck, there may not even be any journals, handwriting, records, signed belongings, or anything else. The way I see it, this portrait could be the only surviving remnant of that specific person's life--and all the rest is now long gone and forgotten. I can't imagine the experience of looking at this item--such an expensive and beloved item for the owner--for the first time after all the intervening years. I think that's why this find is so great for me to see posted here.
Have you given much thought to how you're going to do the electrolysis? I assume you're going to do it very slowly?
Regards,
Buckleboy
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
It's been awhile since I've visited this string.
WOW...that is coming along nicely Don! I can see that it's copper now that it's out in the open so I'm sure that you already know that it's a daguerrotype.
I don't know how far I'd take it before I'd call it as good as it's gonna get though....but it's a heckuva difference.
I agree with BuckleBoy also on it being pretty slim that you'll find out who this person was. I have family portraits of my Great-Great Grandfather and his family, to include TEN children, taken sometime between 1905-1910. I can recognize my Great Grandfather (who was about 24 or so in the pic) and my Great-Great Uncle who was about 8 or 10, but hanged if I know who anybody else is and they're kin to me!
Maybe you can narrow it down some through researching county/township land records.
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It's been awhile since I've visited this string.
WOW...that is coming along nicely Don! I can see that it's copper now that it's out in the open so I'm sure that you already know that it's a daguerrotype.
I don't know how far I'd take it before I'd call it as good as it's gonna get though....but it's a heckuva difference.
I agree with BuckleBoy also on it being pretty slim that you'll find out who this person was. I have family portraits of my Great-Great Grandfather and his family, to include TEN children, taken sometime between 1905-1910. I can recognize my Great Grandfather (who was about 24 or so in the pic) and my Great-Great Uncle who was about 8 or 10, but hanged if I know who anybody else is and they're kin to me!
Maybe you can narrow it down some through researching county/township land records.
HH,
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
BIG HIGH FIVERS ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
staring at the past and hes looking into the future UNREAL
cool factor of 10
i threw a bump to the banner everyone else fell free
BIG HIGH FIVERS ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
staring at the past and hes looking into the future UNREAL
cool factor of 10
i threw a bump to the banner everyone else fell free
Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Don,
That photo is looking great. Good luck on your electrolysis step. What a neat find.
-MM-
Don,
That photo is looking great. Good luck on your electrolysis step. What a neat find.
-MM-
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
I TOTALLY AGREE...BANNER!!!!!!!!!
Don, that is coming out nicely...hubby said the guy kinda' resembles JESSIE JAMES...wouldn't it be awesome if it was!!! WOW....but I doubt it. (but it's a nice thought anywhohow!)
Beautiful Job you have done!!!
Annmarie
I TOTALLY AGREE...BANNER!!!!!!!!!
Don, that is coming out nicely...hubby said the guy kinda' resembles JESSIE JAMES...wouldn't it be awesome if it was!!! WOW....but I doubt it. (but it's a nice thought anywhohow!)
Beautiful Job you have done!!!
Annmarie
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Maybe they are waiting for the final results before they put it on the BANNER? It deffinately would get more people pumped for this hobby!
Maybe they are waiting for the final results before they put it on the BANNER? It deffinately would get more people pumped for this hobby!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
I believe you may be correct (on the banner)....and I hope it gets banner!!!
I would love to find something like that....maybe we will get lucky at the Pipsico hunt...wishful thinking I guess!
Don, can't wait for the next photo update!
Annmarie
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I believe you may be correct (on the banner)....and I hope it gets banner!!!
I would love to find something like that....maybe we will get lucky at the Pipsico hunt
...wishful thinking I guess!Don, can't wait for the next photo update!
Annmarie
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
Nice frame! Cngrats!
Nice frame! Cngrats!
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Re: 1840-1860 era Antique Photo Portrait- UPDATED- 4 March
WTG Don!
Post #100
BANNER TIME!
![hammertime[1].gif](https://www.treasurenet.com/data/attachments/131/131237-778ffc2dc7fca1e1d639489b8c6f7de0.jpg "hammertime[1].gif")
BANNER TIME!
WTG Don!
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