1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper, updated: and 1600s Dutch Duit

[dwayne sueno]

1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper, updated: and 1600's Dutch Duit

got out for a couple of short hunts today. one site produced a crusty '57 flying eagle cent, a fatty '64 IH (i was missing that one in my book), a dateless IH and a coupla buttons.
the other site, a colonial house site, produced a coupla more buttons, this 1787 Vermont copper, and a mystery (not for long around here- thanks, IP!) coin- an 1800 george III farthing-looking affair, but with a shield reverse instead of the seated liberty-type design. diameter is just a hair bigger than a penny, but the coin is much thinner. sounded nickely on the se. i had not found examples of either of these latter coins before, so to have a two-first day leaves me very pleased. pass the genny cream ale.

update 6/3: i was going through my "junk" finds from yesterday's hunt, and found what i must have thought was a button when i was in the field, but now it's looking more like a 1600's dutch coin. posted it today in the 'what is it' forum, and Mackaydon gave me enough evidence to to post it here as a coin. thanks, Don!
one side reads:

GIV
TRA...
16??

the other is more corroded, but i can make out "UTRECHT" along the rim. sweet!

pics at bottom of this post.

dwayne

 

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[dwayne sueno]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper and 1800 George III Gaming Token

Great coins.
Congrats
Dman

Thanks, Dman

Awesome coins!!!
Thats what it's all about!!!!

Thanks, Swingit

Very nice coppers DS its a shame we can't dig more state coppers here

Thanks, umr. Your'e not finding the state coppers cause you keep tripping over all that colonial silver!

Great post and great coins as usual Dwayne. You are having one heck of a year.

Thanks, mainer. It has been a lucky streak these last coupla weeks.

Sueno. another great post ! Congrads on all the beautiful copper and the 2 firsts ! that Vermont is in decent shape ! Thanks for sharing with us ! MaineRelic

Thanks, MR. The Vermont has been on my wishlist for a while, and it's cool to get one with some detail left!

Can't beat that with a stick. A productive day Dwayne.
Chris

Thanks, Chris

Nice one D. LOVE the state coppers!

Ya, Hogge. It's nothing compared to that sweet Vermont copper you pulled a year or two ago, but I'm very pleased with it!

nice old finds i live in ver mont but cant seem to find a vt copper but ill keep a lookin

Thanks, Teleman. You'll get one. Keep at it!

Great hunt.

Thanks, pepperj

Nice VT! 1787 VERMONT COPPER - RYDER 13 The second is a gaming token. (many types exist and the three most common dates off the top of my head are 1701, 1788, & 1790)

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/vermont_coppers/vt_ryder_13.htm

thanks for the ID's, IP!

So we'll split the credit 50/50 on those. I'll take the VT for my half!

i got it all polished up for ya! what's your address?

I need some of that secret buffing cream! It sure works good on coins too!

Thanks again for the ID's, IP. My secret buffing cream is just equal parts spandex, gravel and bacon grease overnight in a rock tumbler.
Works great on silver, too!

Indeed, the man named Sueno strikes again! You are having a career year, my friend. Good job on the coppers and keep hunting with desire.

Kirk

Thanks, Kirk. Look forward to seeing all the copper your'e gonna pull this weekend!

 

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[Iron Patch]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper and 1800 George III Gaming Token

Great coins.
Congrats
Dman

Thanks, Dman

Awesome coins!!!
Thats what it's all about!!!!

Thanks, Swingit

Very nice coppers DS its a shame we can't dig more state coppers here

Thanks, umr. Your'e not finding the state coppers cause you keep tripping over all that colonial silver!

Great post and great coins as usual Dwayne. You are having one heck of a year.

Thanks, mainer. It has been a lucky streak these last coupla weeks.

Sueno. another great post ! Congrads on all the beautiful copper and the 2 firsts ! that Vermont is in decent shape ! Thanks for sharing with us ! MaineRelic

Thanks, MR. The Vermont has been on my wishlist for a while, and it's cool to get one with some detail left!

Can't beat that with a stick. A productive day Dwayne.
Chris

Thanks, Chris

Nice one D. LOVE the state coppers!

Ya, Hogge. It's nothing compared to that sweet Vermont copper you pulled a year or two ago, but I'm very pleased with it!

nice old finds i live in ver mont but cant seem to find a vt copper but ill keep a lookin

Thanks, Teleman. You'll get one. Keep at it!

Great hunt.

Thanks, pepperj

Nice VT! 1787 VERMONT COPPER - RYDER 13 The second is a gaming token. (many types exist and the three most common dates off the top of my head are 1701, 1788, & 1790)

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/vermont_coppers/vt_ryder_13.htm

thanks for the ID's, IP!

So we'll split the credit 50/50 on those. I'll take the VT for my half!

i got it all polished up for ya! what's your address?

I need some of that secret buffing cream! It sure works good on coins too!

Thanks again for the ID's, IP. My secret buffing cream is just equal parts spandex, gravel and bacon grease overnight in a rock tumbler.
Works great on silver, too!



Kirk

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Tasty! That reminds me a lot of the days I eat breakfast in the dryer.

 

[allen]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper and 1800 George III Gaming Token

I cant wait for the day I find some of those beautiful oldies !

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper and 1800 George III Gaming Token

I cant wait for the day I find some of those beautiful oldies !

....and I correct your IDs!

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: 1787 or '88 Vermont Copper

Nice VT! 1787 VERMONT COPPER - RYDER 13 The second is a gaming token. (many types exist and the three most common dates off the top of my head are 1701, 1788, 1790, & 1791)

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/vermont_coppers/vt_ryder_13.htm

Agreed gaming token representing a 'spade' guinea - look up at banner for gold version

 

[dwayne sueno]

Re: 1787 or '88 Vermont Copper

I cant wait for the day I find some of those beautiful oldies !

Allen, you'll find your's! it's out there.

Nice VT! 1787 VERMONT COPPER - RYDER 13 The second is a gaming token. (many types exist and the three most common dates off the top of my head are 1701, 1788, 1790, & 1791)

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/vermont_coppers/vt_ryder_13.htm

Agreed gaming token representing a 'spade' guinea - look up at banner for gold version

thanks, CRU.

i HAD noticed that, but was pretty sure mine wasn't as shiny as the one on the banner, and it's much smaller, to boot.
i'll take it, though.

also, was just cleaning out my junk pouch from the same hunt, and came across something that i must've thought was a button in the field, but now it looks like a 1600's dutch coin.
posted it in the "what is it?" forum. figure you've probably seen enough of 'em to ID it pretty quick, if your'e interested.

thanks,

dwayne

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: 1787 or '88 Vermont Copper

I cant wait for the day I find some of those beautiful oldies !

Allen, you'll find your's! it's out there.

Nice VT! 1787 VERMONT COPPER - RYDER 13 The second is a gaming token. (many types exist and the three most common dates off the top of my head are 1701, 1788, 1790, & 1791)

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/vermont_coppers/vt_ryder_13.htm

Agreed gaming token representing a 'spade' guinea - look up at banner for gold version

thanks, CRU.

i HAD noticed that, but was pretty sure mine wasn't as shiny as the one on the banner, and it's much smaller, to boot.
i'll take it, though.

also, was just cleaning out my junk pouch from the same hunt, and came across something that i must've thought was a button in the field, but now it looks like a 1600's dutch coin.
posted it in the "what is it?" forum. figure you've probably seen enough of 'em to ID it pretty quick, if your'e interested.

thanks,

dwayne

The tokens came in many sizes, but it could also represent a half guinea.

Seen the coin, your right about the 1600s, Dutch is most likely, but I don't find many foreign coins & have concentrated on British, so not much of a clue really.

 

[Kyle PA]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper and 1800 George III Gaming Token

I'd call that day a super success on the Colonial board! Great Vermont and Game token! I love oddball coppers like those!

 

[dwayne sueno]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper and 1800 George III Gaming Token

I'd call that day a super success on the Colonial board! Great Vermont and Game token! I love oddball coppers like those!

thanks, Kyle. i am well pleased, indeed.



also, just updated the thread to add another early coin from yesterday's hunt. i had though it was a worn out button when i was in the field, but it seems to be a 1600's dutch duit.
pics in original post.

dwayne

 

[Sniffy]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper, updated: and 1600's Dutch Duit

you are the man.

 

[JerV3]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper, updated: and 1600's Dutch Duit

Those are nice finds.

Looks like they have come from the clay type soil. Great history in NY. Lots here to in Pa where I am at. But It is hard in the city to find coppers anymore. Gotta go out a little further.

Are you hunting homes or foundation sites.

HH Jer

 

[Kirk PA]

Re: 1787 Ryder 13 Vermont Copper, updated: and 1600's Dutch Duit

Sweet, Dwayne, on the ID of the 1600s Dutch copper. Man, you are killing it this year! This has to be your best year so far!

Kirk