1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) UPDATE: SOLD on EBAY

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Decided to go on this rain soaking, typical, northeastern spring day. Our first trip of the year to the spot of the other Ryder 7 Vermontensium copper and the British Revolutionary War Belt Tip. (I'm gonna find the other one AND the cartridge box plate!!!). After arriving at the spot we noticed hardly any snow, which we were hoping for, only there was ALOT of storm damage from the ice storm we had early in the winter. Then it starting hosing on us , so we built a fire underneath a stand of pines and dried out for 2 1/2 hours. Lots of fun we were having ::). By this time I was about ready to go home as were my brother and Roz, but said I'd give it about 15 mins before we left. Walked over to the foundation and got a jumpy, deep signal at 8+ inches. Right away there are some flat rocks >:( but I continued after removing them. Still getting a decent bottle cap signal, I took another shovel full and dumped it out. Noticed the caked up disc that I thought was a button, but kinda knew right away it could be coinage. Awesome! This was the KG III. Could see it was going to be toast. So I checked the hole again and was still getting a good signal underneath a huge rock. It was too good a signal bouncing between 25 and 50 cents to pass up on. After another rock and 2 more shovels of dirt, it was in the pile I had beside the hole. Grabbed 2 handfuls and passed it over the coil and BINGO! I had it in my hand. Could see it was a coin right away, and could see the side said "TENSIUM". Holy Moly another Vermont Copper! 2 coins in the same hole! So in 3 hrs. AND 1, COUNT IT, "1" HOLE I had 2 1700's coins!!! "The HOGGE IS RUNNING WILD" When I called to my brother and Roz, they thought I was full of.....Well "stuff". Until they came over and saw what I had in my FIRST and ONLY hole of the day. I hope it's an indication of the year I'm about to have. We decided to leave and go back up tomarrow when it wasn't so bad out. All I've done so far is hit them with water and a soft toothbrush. The CFT is shot but believe it or not the date is 1776 or 1775. You can't see it in the scan but I can under magnification. The Vermont I will repost after the peroxide bath. This thing, like the Ryder 7, has some awesome detail left in it. I think being underneath a 30-40#,(or more!) boulder helped in it's preservation. Again, I will repost the Vermont tonight! There is some real nice detail on the obverse. The sun, landscape and plough are AWESOME! You can easily see the doubling on the "U" in PUBLICA. The reverse is worn and a small piece of the planchet is missing from the "T" to the first "L" in STELLA. "QUARTA" is only 1/2 there and the upper half of "DE" in DECIMA is clipped. OVERALL....I got real lucky again to find a 223 year old coin in this kind of shape.UPDATE: Sold today 5/30/09 on EBAY for $760.00. Thought I get more as within 12 hrs. of listing, it had already met the reserve of $700.00.( thought I would try it) So I sat for 6 1/2 more days with no more bids til today. I actually was going to sell it private sale for $500.00. I guess EBAY worked out this time! :hello2: EBAY #330332742270
 

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Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

seems like you get all the luck :D :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Awesome find Sherm! Looking forward to seeing the Vermont :thumbsup:

Congrats call me later about tomorrow :thumbsup:

G1
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Awesome find you got me all excited, :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Quality over quantity anyday.

Are there no other signals there? Doesn't seem like you did much digging.
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

off to a good start indeed. look forward to seeing that new vermont piece in a stack's catologue soon... keep it up. dwayne
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Hogge, is this the best hobby in the world or what? you are lucky to live in a target rich environment. But luck alone doesn't
cut it over time. You are a hunter among hunters. The rain, the fire & detecting. It don't get any better.
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Nice finds, HH......
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

thats so awesome, great detail too. I have yet to break into the 1700s. I found 2 half cents from 1800, just missed it by a year.

great finds.
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

You need to send some of that good luck over this way Hogge. Unbelievable. Way to go. :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Deno said:
Hogge, is this the best hobby in the world or what? you are lucky to live in a target rich environment. But luck alone doesn't
cut it over time. You are a hunter among hunters. The rain, the fire & detecting. It don't get any better.
Yes....YES...What an exciting hobby it truly is!! :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Nice finds, that prism 4 seems to treat you very well.
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

I'm not very good at keeping my opinions to myself. Doesn't seem to work for me. I've had several C-4 members,(Colonial Coin Collectors Club), look at this coin. All have graded it by eye at VF-XF condition even at a ground find. This puts value between $2500-$4000. Take 1/2 off, or a little more, for being a ground find and you still have quite a valuable coin in it's condition. How many Landscape Vermont coppers are found and posted on this site over a years time? 2 maybe 3? How many in this condition????? "0"! Don't get me wrong.......I love this site and the people in it but....often makes me wonder..... :icon_scratch: ::). Maybe I ought to become a Charter Member and go to the "Venting" site which is offered, as that may allow me to share some "constructive criticism" I have! >:( :wink: :-\ ??? ::) :o :stop: Hogge P.S.---- Sorry I didn't have any pulltabs or nails to show ya ::)
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

good job hope to see more!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Any Vermont Landscape Copper in that condition deserves to be on the Banner!!!!!!!!!!!
Just my opinion ;D

P.S. Yes you should become a charter member :wink:

G1
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

P.S.---- Sorry I didn't have any pulltabs or nails to show ya

Yes you did!!!!
You just didn't post them ;D

LoL G1
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

Golden1 said:
P.S.---- Sorry I didn't have any pulltabs or nails to show ya

Yes you did!!!!
You just didn't post them ;D

LoL G1
HARDY..... HARR.....HARR....Mister! LOL :thumbsup:
 

Re: 1786 Vermontensium Copper (RYDER 6) and wasted CFT KG III 1776 (I Think)

hogge said:
I'm not very good at keeping my opinions to myself. Doesn't seem to work for me. I've had several C-4 members,(Colonial Coin Collectors Club), look at this coin. All have graded it by eye at VF-XF condition even at a ground find. This puts value between $2500-$4000. Take 1/2 off, or a little more, for being a ground find and you still have quite a valuable coin in it's condition. How many Landscape Vermont coppers are found and posted on this site over a years time? 2 maybe 3? How many in this condition????? "0"! Don't get me wrong.......I love this site and the people in it but....often makes me wonder..... :icon_scratch: ::). Maybe I ought to become a Charter Member and go to the "Venting" site which is offered, as that may allow me to share some "constructive criticism" I have! >:( :wink: :-\ ??? ::) :o :stop: Hogge P.S.---- Sorry I didn't have any pulltabs or nails to show ya ::)



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