1778 King George III Halfpence

[Eastender]

I find quite a few 1700s Halfpence. Nearly all are KGII. And most are in good to very good condition. Today I found this KGIII nearly 10" deep with my Manticore. It's in bad shape, but my digital microscope was able to pull out the date. Tough year for the young nation and my area was divided between loyalists and rebels. Good for site diagnostics. It helps to date the artifacts I have found in that vicinity. Today I found a bunch of nails and spikes, a horseshoe, and chunks of iron nearby. My finds fit the historical narrative that by the reign of KGIII, small change was in short supply.

 

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[ironhorse]

A 1778 imitation halfpenny was made by Machin Mills..well known forgeries!

 

[paleomaxx]

What you have there is a Machin's Mills counterfeit halfpenny. They were minted by Thomas Machin at his mint in Newburgh NY likely around 1787-1788 but perhaps even later. During the day his mint made legitimate coins and tokens, but at night he churned out thousands of underweight counterfeit British halfpennies. Some had dates that matched years that regal halfpennies were minted, but others had dates like 1776, 1778 and 1787. It's theorized that the 1776 and 1778 dated ones were meant to be commemorative. Thomas Machin was a patriot so the 1776 one is obvious, but the 1778 one is thought to be in celebration of the chain across the Hudson which he designed. During the Revolutionary War the chain and supporting fortifications at West Point prevented British warships from sailing up the Hudson river and cutting the colonies in two.

Very cool find!

 

[Eastender]

I found a Machin's HP a couple of years ago. The die was weak on the obverse, but rarely do you see this level of detail on the reverse as you can see here. The planchet was thin in the area of the date so the numbers didn't impress. I'm fortunate that our sandy well-drained soils usually preserve these coppers well.

 

[Almy]

Great finds, photos and narrative! I'm probably north and a bit east of you, accessible from the sea, and my halfpenny -size coins support the scarcity idea. I've found a few KG IIs, lots of IIIs and also some state coppers (Vermont and Connecticut), a French copper and a Guiana copper around homesteads.

 

[Glen's Loyalists]

1778 is definitely Machin Mills as no regular issue came after 1775. Hard coin to find, well done.

I have found many counterfeits, mostly dated 1775 but some others 1770 to 1774. I find more of these than real ones.

 

[Gare]

GREAT FIND !!

 

[oldmxrat]

Very cool, congrats!

 

[michael NY]

A 1778 imitation halfpenny was made by Machin Mills..well known forgeries!

I am not far from that mint and dug a couple of slick coppers I wish I could have defined proof they came from that mint. But just my best guess the proximity of how close the coins recovered from Newburgh to me says plenty.

 

[Urien of Rheged]

Talking of snide mad king George's....I found this onky the other week. I knew straight away that it was too lightweight to be a genuine half crown. I think it's a tin based alloy. And that just look absolutely nothing like the bullhead it should be.
It is a terrible forgery how anyone would have been fooled is just beyond me

 

[Digger RJ]

I find quite a few 1700s Halfpence. Nearly all are KGII. And most are in good to very good condition. Today I found this KGIII nearly 10" deep with my Manticore. It's in bad shape, but my digital microscope was able to pull out the date. Tough year for the young nation and my area was divided between loyalists and rebels. Good for site diagnostics. It helps to date the artifacts I have found in that vicinity. Today I found a bunch of nails and spikes, a horseshoe, and chunks of iron nearby. My finds fit the historical narrative that by the reign of KGIII, small change was in short supply.

Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!