1652 PINE TREE SCHILLING !!!

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My friend the fire man found this.he sure did his research. If anyone can give me any information about the coin.. how much is it worth ? any unique features ?..that would be great .I am sure he is not going to sell it ...he just wants to know out of curiosity ..Thanks for looking
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PS. There is no 'C' in Shilling, unless your German.
 

BARKER said:
Hi; Suggestion is to send it to PCGS. They will Grade, Certify and Slab it for him. I believe they charge a Sliding Fee for their Services.but once it is done there will NEVER be a question as to its Rarity, Grade or Value. It will also be Registered in their files so if it is ever stolen then you will have a Photographic Record to show the Police as well.
In 1988 I had several coins stolen and that is exactly how I not only Identified the coins but was also able to catch the thief. He took the coins to a local dealer who I notified of the theft. He called the cops and the busted the guy via the idiots Signature and the guys picture from the stores camera. He did a year for the Robbery. Grand Larceny. It was this clowns seventh conviction. Good riddance to the scum bag.
Lastly, the nick on the edge is a natural wear. If it ad been cut the slice would have been larger and cleaner. It might be a plow strike but otherwise it is natural ok.
Hope this helps. Great Find. PEACE:RONB :notworthy:
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PCGS may or may not slab it due to "environmental damage" Other than getting it certified as genuine I don't think the grading services are worth 2 cents when it comes to colonial era stuff. I've seen more slabs that completely misidentify a colonial coin. Here's an example with a Connecticut copper that is slabbed as an "African Head" 1785 COPPER Connecticut Copper, African Head--Museum | Lot #7021 | Heritage Auctions It is obviously not. I've seen many others over the years with all the grading services. They "might" be able to tell you if it is genuine or not, but not much else when it comes to identification and grading with colonials. Just an FYI, as colonials are often unevenly struck, they are graded on the details that were stuck well and then the wear is taken into account in these areas.
 

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That what we call a "phenom"... short for phenominal find.
Casper is correct... send for appraisal and grading immediately.
 

I know your friend from the Silver City Treasure Seekers in Taunton, MA, so please tell him that Jim extends a huge congratulations :icon_thumleft: on his outstanding recovery of a Pine Tree Shilling. I saw him at the club's monthly meeting last week and took note of his recent recovery of 17th century buttons and leather mounts. I told him that he was in Mass Silver territory with his finds and to stay on it. Looks like he did exactly that. Tell him that I hope to see him with his coin at the club's huge New England Treasure Show next Saturday, 9/20/14.

The coin is fantastic! :headbang: As some of the members have pointed out, he needs to get it weighed to positively determine whether the clipping was done as part of the minting process or by some thrifty colonist looking to shave a little silver for his next purchase. I have a cut Mass silver (to make change) and a whole specimen, but my buddy found a shaved piece of Mass Silver, so the practice of clipping coins wasn't limited to Spanish cobs. Regardless of what he determines - that's a killer find!

Just my own opinion - I would not have it slabbed. I had my Oak Tree Shilling slabbed, and it was not a good experience. I expected a details grade, and called NGC (Numismatic Guarantee Corp.) to arrange for it if necessary, but they mishandled the whole matter, i.e., they sent the coin back to me in a body bag (that's what they call it if coins are rejected for reqular encapsulation). So I had to send my coin a second time and guess what? They eventually slabbed it - but with the wrong variety designation. :BangHead: I thought they were suppose to be the experts. ??? My variety of Oak Tree shilling is the Spiny Tree Noe-14. It's the most recognizable coin of all Mass Silver as it's a hybrid of sorts - a cross over from the Oak Tree Series to the Pine Tree Series. I'll probably remove it from the slab someday; for now, I'm too busy looking for another - got to stay positive! Anyway, please tell Mike that I suggest he save himself all the hassle and just enjoy his fantastic find.
 

P.S. - Man, do an edit and get rid of that C. It's SHILLING. Can't have an awesome find like that with a misspelled thread title.
 

does not get any better than that. I,d be so proud of that better than a 4hour you know what!
 

Ah the dream coin of us east coast hunters. Congrats to your buddy. I could die happy after I found a tree coin
 

My dream find. Just look at my avatar. Congratulations on that one.
 

That coin is worth more than he can get selling it, if that makes any sense. Absolutely amazing coin and one that is the ultimate on many, many lists.

F-ing outstanding!!!!

-Happy Hunting!
 

Scrappy said:
That coin is worth more than he can get selling it, if that makes any sense. Absolutely amazing coin and one that is the ultimate on many, many lists. F-ing outstanding!!!! -Happy Hunting!
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Makes sense to lots of us! That baby would never leave my collection.
 

Sweet coin!
 

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