1652 Mass Oak Tree 3 Pence

[Rhode Hog]

I know what I have but hoping someone can give me a NOE variety rating and any information on the cobs.
These were part of a once in a lifetime spill find.

 

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[Broken knee]

Nice finds, with luck like that you mister need to play the lottery!! HH
BK

 

[pong12211]

That's a heck of a find. Thanks for sharing.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Hog
Outrageous find...of a life time.....Abe`s going to flip!
Gary

 

[Iron Patch]

Looks like NOE-27, and here's a high grade auction result. " The piece has a very pleasing visual appeal. Full reverse impression shows, quite unusual on an N.27 which ordinarily has a miserable looking back because the die had been worn out by the time it was used to make the variety. " That certainly site the late die state condition of your coin. There's a 27.1 so have to determine how they differ.... could be die state.

Stack's - 1652 Massachusetts Bay Colony. Oak Tree Threepence. N.27, Cr.5-B. - The John J. Ford, Jr. Collection of Massachusetts Silver Coins - 1652 & 1662 Oak Tree Coins - Oak Tree Threepences - Noe 27 Oak Tree Threepence. Crosby 5-B.

 

[ARC]

Woah !!! are you are kidding me right now?
Wherever you found these... GO BACK ! heh

 

[coinman123]

WOW!!! That is all I can say!!! You are incredibly lucky. A member on here recently found a small pocket spill of a 1664 silver cob and pine tree sixpence.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...hale-1652-pine-tree-1664-cob.html#post4257193

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks Iron Patch for your info, there are three coins pictured one three pence shown twice another three pence and a two pence.This spill had six Mass.tree coins three of which have been sold total for spill was 1 pinetree shilling 3 three pences 2 two pences 3 cobs and 2 coppers.I have been detecting for over 20 years much of that time has been spent on the trail of the Plymouth militiamen in the King Philip war.I think site where coins found was militiamen camp

Yeah I was looking during commercials so not paying very much attention. Now that makes it a whole lot more interesting!

 

[Iron Patch]

Twopence from what I see is NOE-30.




1652 Oak Tree Twopence - Noe 30

 

[coachbedford]

In the words of Hulk Hogan, "That's unreal, brother!" I can't even imagine how I would react if I dug up a Massachusetts oak tree silver like that. But did you identify that dark piece in the last two pics? I know the first two are Massachusetts silver and then the Spanish cob, but I can't tell what that dark piece is. Appears to be a hammered coin, maybe silver, maybe billon, maybe copper. I can see something on both sides but can't tell what just yet. Definitely appears to be 1600s vintage.

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

How about that !

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks again Iron Patch,sent some pictures of the oak trees to Stacks waiting to hear back from them.

You'd likely do better on your own not having to pay them a cut. Probably enough sales for the two I ID'ed so easy enough to price them.... and not have to worry about an auction. Just make sure all your info. is right before you sell, and then hold out to get what you think they should bring.

How were the others sold? Private or auction?

 

[Rhode Hog]

Hi Iron Patch heard back form Stacks next day after sending pictures will have to decide what to do.Sold other coins through a coin broker in Boston,didn't feel like i got what i should have for them.I am an old retired guy living on a fixed income so i can always use the money from the sale of these coins.thanks again

 

[gunsil]

This is a totally amazing find!! Why doesn't he have BANNER??

 

[Iron Patch]

Hi Iron Patch heard back form Stacks next day after sending pictures will have to decide what to do.Sold other coins through a coin broker in Boston,didn't feel like i got what i should have for them.I am an old retired guy living on a fixed income so i can always use the money from the sale of these coins.thanks again

That doesn't sound good at all. I hope you at least knew the variety for those because it can make a huge difference.... and why those three and not these three?

 

[cw0909]

Thanks Iron Patch for your info, there are three coins pictured one three pence shown twice another three pence and a two pence.This spill had six Mass.tree coins three of which have been sold total for spill was 1 pinetree shilling 3 three pences 2 two pences 3 cobs and 2 coppers.I have been detecting for over 20 years much of that time has been spent on the trail of the Plymouth militiamen in the King Philip war.I think site where coins found was militiamen camp

wow good work on researching and hunting has paid off, i think we can vote banner, even if the
find is in whats it
even though you sold the pine tree shilling, do you have a img you could post, would love to see it
here is a PT shilling
1652 Massachusetts Bay Colony Pine Tree Shilling Realizes $76,375 | Coin Update

 

[Rhode Hog]

hi the oak tree coins i sold were not in good condition,very worn to the point i could only tell what they where. the pine tree was a badly clipped small plancet.Pine trees are found more often because of there large size, most of my detecting buddys have at least one in there collection.Saw one guys collection of 24 Mass. tree coins found in one area of and old city in eastern Mass. Only advice I have is dig those low numbers.

 

[steelheadwill]

Congrats there Rhode Hog on a nice stack of Colonial era silvers! Hope you've gone over the site with every machine, coil and swing speed you possibly can.
The reverse detail on the first 3C is awesome.

 

[coachbedford]

I think i've figured out what that hammered copper coin is....an early to mid-1600's copper coin of Scotland, either Charles I or II. So it's just as old as your Massachusetts silver though your Massachusetts coin is by far the most valuable.

 

[Rhode Hog]

I think i've figured out what that hammered copper coin is....an early to mid-1600's copper coin of Scotland, either Charles I or II. So it's just as old as your Massachusetts silver though your Massachusetts coin is by far the most valuable.

Thanks Coach I should have know that was the Scotish thistle not wings on the copper. We find Nova Scotia coppers around here all the time.