14 Naval Button Spill, Almost Found the King of all Wheats

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Hi everyone,

Well, I know most of you are East Coasters so as I write this at 8:30 pm PST most of you won't read it until morning. I'm feeling like this might be a longer post so grab a cup of coffee and come along for a ride!

It started this morning when I called an inn at a nearby town. It looks like an old place so I chatted up the innkeeper. Turns out it's only around 30 years old but the building behind the inn was a saloon starting in the early 1880s. That sure got my attention. The innkeeper told me he sold that property to a guy a few years back and gave me his info.

I drove to the town and met the guy who owns the (former) saloon. I explained I am a history buff, chatted him up about the property, then asked if I could detect. He was really skeptical and "didn't want holes all over his lawn". I explained my process of cutting plugs and assured him that I would leave no trace I was there. He gave me a tentative okay but seemed skeptical and asked me to be careful.

I sampled the property (it's probably a quarter acre) and didn't find much in the first 30 minutes. Then I got a weird signal that bounced between a zinc and copper penny (12-38 to 12-42) at 2 inches. I figured there wouldn't be anything old that deep but I was bored so I investigated.

Turns out it was a 6 button spill. Check it out:
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Well, I scanned that area hard and found a total of 14 (full and partial) buttons in a 6' x 6' area. The rest came in ones and twos. Very strange but also really fun. I'm not much of a military buff so I didn't really know what I was on to. However, this is in the area of a fairly large military presence so it generally makes sense. Still not sure how that many buttons end up in that small of an area.

Here are all 14:
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I did the rest of the yard for another 2 hours or so and didn't turn up a single old coin. Very weird, I have to imagine someone thoroughly hit it before.

I knocked to tell the owner thanks on the way out and told him about the button spill. He seemed interested and told me a military family lived here before him. I asked him if he'd like to keep one of the buttons as a keepsake and he lit up. He said "Wow, really?". I said, "Sure, I have a whole pocketful." The next part was the best, he was like "Wow, okay that is so cool. Thank you so much. I'm really glad I got to meet you!" I gave him some pointers on cleaning it and he shook my hand vigorously before I left.

It felt really good to turn a skeptic into an enthusiast. I'm sure that guy will have a much more positive outlook on detecting for the rest of his life because of that one little experience. Really neat!

Here are some cleaner photos of the buttons:
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I still had a couple hours of daylight and decided to return to a standing permission I have. It's the same place I found the Morgan a couple weeks back along with lots of other cool coins and relics.

Pretty early on I hit my first old nickel from the property, an 1897 V nickel. That was fun. First V of the year for me. Then a little while later I got an 1903 Indian Head Penny. Awesome! I only found 10 last year and that's already my 4th this year. My next signal after the Indian was really similar and only a foot away. I was hoping I had another Indian and saw it was a wheatie. I figured it was older being so closer to the Indian and took a closer look. I thought I saw 1909-S and figured there was no way. Probably a 1929-S. I wiped a little more dirt away and it was unmistakable:
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I flipped it over and realized the back was way too crusty to tell if it had a VDB. Either way, I was really stoked! I've never found a 1909-S or 1909-S VDB.

After several cleaning methods at home I could not get a VDB to appear:
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Too bad. I guess I'll have to keep looking for that elusive coin.

Here are some photos of the overall finds. There were a couple common date wheats, a 1949 Jefferson and a tax token in the mix too.
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Thanks so much for looking and as always, good luck in the hunt!
-W
 

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Great post bet that was a coat that dissinagrated and just buttons left, good job wonder if he buys a detecter now lol Thanks for the great post

Interesting theory, could be! That would help explain why 6 were all stacked on top of each other. Bummer for the Navy man that lost his coat in that case...
 

Hmmm Navy buttons on the property of a saloon?!?!?! Who would figure :laughing7: If I were a betting man I would say they came off the Bridge Coat, Officers and Chief Petty Officers wear them, the enlisted Pea Coat does not have that many buttons. The rest of your hunt was a killer Wash! Love that 1909-S:occasion14:

Cool! I'm a complete novice when it comes to any military-related items so I appreciate the insight. Thank you!
 

Congrats on the nice buttons and rare wheaty :occasion14: Looks like it’s going to be another awesome year for you :icon_thumleft:

Thanks so much Racso, I hope so! I've been focusing more on quality older areas this year vs. pure silver quantity last year. I feel like it has been paying off and it's a fun new challenge! Gets me out to places I would usually write off (generally because they are too far away). Hard to find anywhere from the 1800s that's undisturbed or unhunted within an hour of Seattle. Those kinds of places are either under pavement or have gotten rocked hard by decades of hunters.
 

Nice button spill! No VDB but still a scarce wheatie either way. I've only found one VDB ever but it's a Philly version.

Thanks MH. I've got my finger crossed that maybe someday I can be so lucky. Good luck out there!
 

That is one button hoard! How cool is that? And you know what?(“What?” you say...:laughing7:) ANY ONE of those things you dug up could’ve been the find of the year. If I go to a site and I’m still digging high conductors or medium conductors, but they all wind up being something just “ho-hum”...I’m still very happy about that, because those types of signals are STILL there and haven’t been dug yet!
What a day out there. When I’m thinking “historic” or “old” or any of that, for some reason SEATTLE just isn’t in the front of my mind. Maybe it should be! You’re sure making it very evident,along with the other guys out there, that the area is no slouch when it comes to barfing pretty cool stuff! I’m sure the barfing hasn’t even hardly begun..(ewwwwww)
 

That is one button hoard! How cool is that? And you know what?(“What?” you say...:laughing7:) ANY ONE of those things you dug up could’ve been the find of the year. If I go to a site and I’m still digging high conductors or medium conductors, but they all wind up being something just “ho-hum”...I’m still very happy about that, because those types of signals are STILL there and haven’t been dug yet!
What a day out there. When I’m thinking “historic” or “old” or any of that, for some reason SEATTLE just isn’t in the front of my mind. Maybe it should be! You’re sure making it very evident,along with the other guys out there, that the area is no slouch when it comes to barfing pretty cool stuff! I’m sure the barfing hasn’t even hardly begun..(ewwwwww)

Haha thanks so much! I appreciate the colorful comment. To be honest, Seattle isn’t really known too much for being a hot spot for historic finds. Within an hour, the majority of sites are well hunted out. I’ve been focusing on more historical sites that are 2-3 hours outside the city. I’m actually only living in Seattle half time right now and living a couple hours north the rest of the time which has opened up some detecting opportunities I didn’t have before. Unfortunately, I’ve only got a couple more weeks before I’m back in Seattle full-time but I plan to keep trying to make the most of them.

Oh, and stay tuned for Coin Fetcher’s post soon. He’s keeping the good stuff coming from the area.
 

Very nice finds! Hopefully you'll make it back there for round 2.
 

Very cool buttons! Congrats! :icon_thumleft: Nice V nick and also nice IHP.
 

That's a very cool button spill. Probably WWII era. If you can read the baclkmark, they could be dated.
 

Great hunt of old coins and relics! :occasion14:
 

I found a 1909 last week, the VDB eluded me as well! But makes for a good rush when you see the year. Good saves!
 

Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!
 

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