14 Copper Things From The Same Hole! Toy Bullets? SOLVED!

[rufus3898]

14 Copper Things From The Same Hole! Toy Bullets? Found them just a few feet away from a 1912 Canada LC. They are about 1/2" long or 3/4" with the lead in the tip. I thing they kinda look like toy bullets but any info would be great! Thanks!!!

 

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[rufus3898]

Only one appears to have the pin pushed in. The rest are unfired but the lead has deteriorated badly but still intact on all but 2 you can see in the pic.

I only see lead on three of them. But you say only one is empty?

Yes they all have lead still in them but the noses have corroded off. only the 2 have a visible projectile. The one that has the pin pushed in still has the lead but the nose has corroded away.

 

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[Iron Patch]

Only one appears to have the pin pushed in. The rest are unfired but the lead has deteriorated badly but still intact on all but 2 you can see in the pic.

I only see lead on three of them. But you say only one is empty?

Yes they all have lead still in them but the noses have corroded off. only the 2 have a visible projectile. The one that has the pin pushed in still has the lead but the nose has corroded away.

That must be fired condition otherwise the ends would have been in the hole, but the main thing is lead does not corrode in that way.

If those bullets went in the ground intact they would come out just the same way.

 

[rufus3898]

Only one appears to have the pin pushed in. The rest are unfired but the lead has deteriorated badly but still intact on all but 2 you can see in the pic.

I only see lead on three of them. But you say only one is empty?

Yes they all have lead still in them but the noses have corroded off. only the 2 have a visible projectile. The one that has the pin pushed in still has the lead but the nose has corroded away.

That must be fired condition otherwise the ends would have been in the hole, but the main thing is lead does not corrode in that way.

If those bullets went in the ground intact they would come out just the same way.

Well I hate tell you different but this lead has corroded. When I pulled them out of the hole the noses were still in the hole but they were left there. You can still see that the 2 that are still intact are heavily corroded as well.
Is it a possibility that they are not pure lead but mixed with something else that can deteriorate?

 

[Iron Patch]

Only one appears to have the pin pushed in. The rest are unfired but the lead has deteriorated badly but still intact on all but 2 you can see in the pic.

I only see lead on three of them. But you say only one is empty?

Yes they all have lead still in them but the noses have corroded off. only the 2 have a visible projectile. The one that has the pin pushed in still has the lead but the nose has corroded away.

That must be fired condition otherwise the ends would have been in the hole, but the main thing is lead does not corrode in that way.

If those bullets went in the ground intact they would come out just the same way.

Well I hate tell you different but this lead has corroded. When I pulled them out of the hole the noses were still in the hole but they were left there. You can still see that the 2 that are still intact are heavily corroded as well.
Is it a possibility that they are not pure lead but mixed with something else that can deteriorate?

Then why don't you tell the entire story the first time around, or did I just miss it?

You might hate to tell me but I don't mind hearing the answers.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Im gonna take a guess here. Blackpowder is highly corrosive, more so than modern smokeless powder. Maybe that is why the leads fell off.

 

[DJ_Quinn]

That's a really cool find. I had never heard of "pinfire" cartridges before I read this thread, thanks for the info lads!

 

[duggap]

Wow man, what a find. You might hunt for twenty more years and not top that one. Not too many cartridges from that era eat up the lead, but they will do it. I have several burnside carbine bullets that show a lot of damage. Most metal cartridges don't survive as the black powder will eat away the brass. The only good spencers I have came out of water. Keep it up.

 

[inneedoftherapy]

Nice pinfires.

I picked up an old pinfire revolver at an auction last year. Really want to try it out but when you can find the ammo its rather high. Just my luck.

 

[sniper19612003]

A great and rare find. I happen to own a pistol for which that ammo is used with.

 

[sniper19612003]

Sorry, Try smaller pics.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

sniper, how does the hammer hit it? ...from the top or from the side? Are the pins percussion caps?

 

[sniper19612003]

The hammer hits on top of the pin. My opinion is that the pin goes in and fires off a type of percussion device within the cartridge. ( just a guess on that one but I think I'm close)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

maybe you can manufacture them if you could get the pins. What caliber is yours?

 

[Ramitt]

Very neat find and also a great pistol Sniper. Thanks for sharing the pic. I love those old firearms and ammo.

 

[inneedoftherapy]

That one is nice sniper here is the one I picked up in an auction.

it is a Lefaucheux Pinfire Revolver

 

[rufus3898]

Thanks all for your input on this find. It is much appreciated! I will post any other significant finds from the location that these bullets were found. Maybe I'll hunt in all metal mode, you never know maybe the gun is near by!!!!!

 

[sniper19612003]

Keep up the great work. That is a super find and I hope you have many more.

Sniper