5-year-old Interrogated By School Over Toy Cap Gun Until He Wet Himself With Fear

[0121stockpicker]

And then you want guns in schools??

 

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[CoilyGirl]

The parents had a problem with not being contacted immediately and I sure would too.Yes Stockpicker, I did read the incidents you posted and these two incidents IMHO are worlds apart from a five year old bringing a toy to school and his parents not knowing about it.I can understand how a teacher would be alarmed as well not knowing if the toy was real or not but the way it was handled with the boy was not handled by someone who seems to have common sense or the ability to deal with five year olds and access the situation properly with authority. I would be a little concerned as a parent as to whether this teacher was trained properly in dealing with real life situations where the kids might be in real danger.

 

[0121stockpicker]

The parents had a problem with not being contacted immediately and I sure would too.Yes Stockpicker, I did read the incidents you posted and these two incidents IMHO are worlds apart from a five year old bringing a toy to school and his parents not knowing about it.I can understand how a teacher would be alarmed as well not knowing if the toy was real or not but the way it was handled with the boy was not handled by someone who seems to have common sense or the ability to deal with five year olds and access the situation properly with authority. I would be a little concerned as a parent as to whether this teacher was trained properly in dealing with real life situations where the kids might be in real danger.

I agree, parents should have been contacted immediately.

 

[CoilyGirl]

I do realize the gravity of the situation,just think by calling the parents their input and insight would have maybe made things less upsetting for the boy while still getting a point across.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Next you will hear a kid is in trouble for using his thumb and forefinger as a make believe gun....

Asinine......

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[Red James Cash]

Next you will hear a kid is in trouble for using his thumb and forefinger as a make believe gun....

Asinine

I believe that has already happened TH

 

[Crispin]

I believe that has already happened TH

Of course you do...you would believe anything that furthered your agenda.

 

[onfire]

Of course you do...you would believe anything that furthered your agenda.

TALBOT COUNTY, Md. (WJZ) — Is it child’s play or a serious threat of gun violence? For the second time in less than a month, a Maryland child is kicked out of school for using his finger in the shape of a gun

 

[Red James Cash]

Oh really ,please fill us all in on what my agenda is?Lets see,how many people have said that to me since ive been a member here.I think I need three hands to count the fingers.How many of them are still members here,NONE.Then again that probably doesnt tell you anything.Put you money where your mouth in,fill us all in on what my agenda is.If you dont and try to dance around my question I hope you know what that makes you out to be.Fill us all in.

 

[Red James Cash]

TALBOT COUNTY, Md. (WJZ) — Is it child’s play or a serious threat of gun violence? For the second time in less than a month, a Maryland child is kicked out of school for using his finger in the shape of a gun

Thank you onfire,point proven.

 

[WVPapaw]

5-year-old Interrogated By School Over Toy Cap Gun Until He Wet Himself With Fear

Then suspended for rest of the year

Steve Watson
Infowars.com
May 31, 2013

Yet another child barely out of nappies has been persecuted by school officials for playing with a toy gun on the school bus.

The Washington Post reports that the five-year-old from Dowell Elementary School in Lusby, Maryland was questioned by school officials for over two hours after he showed a friend his cowboy-style cap gun on the way to school.

Officials finally called the boy’s mother when he wet his pants. The mother told the Post that she found it highly unusual that her son soiled himself, indicating that he was very intimidated.

The report states that the boy’s parents bought him the plastic, orange-tipped cap gun at Frontier Town, a western-themed adventure centre. Following the interrogation, the boy told his mother that he had brought it to school because he had “really, really” wanted to show his friend, who had previously brought a water pistol to school.

The school’s principal told the mother that her son had pointed the toy at other students and pretended to shoot them, although the boy and his sister, who was also on the bus and subsequently questioned, say this is not the case.

The principal even stated that had the gun been “loaded” with caps, then it would have been “deemed an explosive and police would have been called in.”

The boy, who remains anonymous has been suspended from school for 10 days. “If the punishment stands, it would become part of the boy’s permanent school record and keep him out of classes the rest of the school year,” the report notes.

“The school was quite obviously taking it very seriously, and he’s 5 years old,” the boy’s mother said. “Why were we not immediately contacted?”

“I have no problem that he had a consequence to his behavior,” the mother added. “What I have a problem with is the severity.”

The family has hired attorney Robin Ficker, who was also the attorney involved in the infamous Hello Kitty bubble gun incident back in January, when school officials in Pennsylvania suspended a five-year-old girl for “threatening” class mates with the toy that contains a harmless soap solution. Officials were also said to have interrogated the girl for several hours, before notifying her parents.

Officials at the Mount Carmel school issued a statement describing the girl’s actions as “terroristic” and then refused to retract it following media coverage.

“Kids play cowboys and Indians,” Ficker stated with regards to the latest incident. He added that the boy’s age is important. “They play cops and robbers. You’re talking about a little 5-year-old here.”

He’s “all bugs and frogs and cowboys,” the boy’s mother added.

School officials said they cannot comment on the matter but have scheduled a “disciplinary conference” today to resolve it.

This latest knee-jerk overreaction to children playing with anything that even remotely resembles a gun comes just days after another kindergartner was punished by school officials and forced to apologise for bringing a tiny miniature lego gun onto a school bus.

The list of previous incidents of this nature is now so long that it has prompted Maryland Sen. J. B. Jennings to introduce a bill to stop such idiotic over reactions being played out over and over again in schools.

In March, a 7-year-old boy from Maryland was suspended for unintentionally biting his pop tart into the shape of a gun.

A third grader in Michigan was reprimanded by school officials when he brought a cupcake to school with a plastic toy soldier, holding a gun, on top of it.

A ten year old Virginia boy who was arrested for taking a plastic toy gun to school was forced to deal with a potentially permanent criminal record over the incident.

A student in Florence, Arizona was recently suspended because he had a picture of a gun on his computer.

A six-year-old kindergartner in South Carolina was suspended for taking a small transparent plastic toy gun to school for a show and tell.

A five-year-old in Massachusetts who faced suspension for building a small toy gun out of lego bricks and play-shooting his classmates.

We also reported on an incident that erupted when a discussion between two children about a toy nerf gun caused a lockdown and a massive armed police response at two elementary schools in the Bronx.

In another incident, a Long Island high school was also placed on lock down for 6 hours in response to a student carrying a toy nerf gun.

The nerf gun was once again the deadly weapon of choice as a university campus in Rhode Island was placed on lockdown, causing panic and minor injuries when a stampede to flee the building ensued.

In another incident, a teacher at Malden High School in Massachusetts who glimpsed sight of a “gun”, alerted police who rushed to the scene only to discover a neon water pistol. School officials then vowed to track down the suspect who brought the toy to school using surveillance cameras.

A South Philadelphia elementary student was searched in front of classmates and threatened with arrest after she mistakenly brought a “paper gun” to school.

A 6-year-old boy was suspended from his elementary school, also in Maryland, for making a gun gesture with his hand and saying “pow”.

Another two 6-year-olds in Maryland were suspended for pointing their fingers into gun shapes while playing “cops and robbers” with each other.

A couple of second grade students at a Virginia elementary school were recently suspended for two days after violating the school’s “zero tolerance” policy on weapons when they pointed pencils at other students and made gun noises.

In Oklahoma, a five-year-old boy was also recently suspended for making a gun gesture with his hand.

A 13-year-old Middle School seventh grade student in Pennsylvania was also suspended for the same hand gesture.

The terrorists really are everywhere these days.

It is a sad state of affairs when school officials can not tell the difference between real and imagined threats and when they Resort to interrogating small children to scare the day lights out of them and threaten expulsion, suspension and criminal penalties for something that threatens no one and could be handled with far less drama. Hello school boards, it is time to wake up and provide oversight in the development of sensible policies, better guidance on enforcement and the hiring of administrators with common sense.

 

[CoilyGirl]

Oh really ,please fill us all in on what my agenda is?Lets see,how many people have said that to me since ive been a member here.I think I need three hands to count the fingers.How many of them are still members here,NONE.Then again that probably doesnt tell you anything.Put you money where your mouth in,fill us all in on what my agenda is.If you dont and try to dance around my question I hope you know what that makes you out to be.Fill us all in.

I have the same agenda!Red James I sincerely thank you for posting such informative links to the lunacy that is going on in this country I used to be proud of.

 

[CoilyGirl]

It is a sad state of affairs when school officials can not tell the difference between real and imagined threats and when they Resort to interrogating small children to scare the day lights out of them and threaten expulsion, suspension and criminal penalties for something that threatens no one and could be handled with far less drama. Hello school boards, it is time to wake up and provide oversight in the development of sensible policies, better guidance on enforcement and the hiring of administrators with common sense.

Well said WV Pawpaw.Just as parents need to use discretion and wisdom in parenting, so do educators. As the saying goes " They don't know whether to scratch their watches or wind their butts" because of all the drama and uproar over isolated incidents. Poor training and scrambling to be so PC has totally ruined the teaching community.

 

[Red James Cash]

Thank you Coilygirl you are sincerely welcome.I'll also thank all my fellow patriot friends as well.Ive been accused of being alot of things here,but for some reason the accusers dont last long.What it comes to is they have no guts,no spine.Keyboard wanna be warriors that fold as easily as a 10 high poker hand.

 

[Crispin]

Oh really ,please fill us all in on what my agenda is?Lets see,how many people have said that to me since ive been a member here.I think I need three hands to count the fingers.How many of them are still members here,NONE.Then again that probably doesnt tell you anything.Put you money where your mouth in,fill us all in on what my agenda is.If you dont and try to dance around my question I hope you know what that makes you out to be.Fill us all in.

ROFL, Red, you crack me up. Here is some free medical advice for you: Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.

Crispin

 

[Red James Cash]

Put you money where your mouth in,fill us all in on what my agenda is.If you dont and try to dance around my question I hope you know what that makes you out to be.Fill us all in.

Dont mind if I quote myself.

 

[packerbacker]

It's a fact, kids can't pretend gunplay at all in school. One kid (little girl) had a paper gun her grandpa had made her. Just a piece of flat paper in the shape of an "L". She wasn't even playing with it. She found it in her pocket and went to throw it away and got "Busted". This country is looking like pre-war Germany every day.

 

[Crispin]

Dont mind if I quote myself.

ROFL! You busted me, you are an enigma to us all. Nobody can predict you, a true mystery. I bow to your superior hiding agenda skills.

 

[0121stockpicker]

It's a fact, kids can't pretend gunplay at all in school. One kid (little girl) had a paper gun her grandpa had made her. Just a piece of flat paper in the shape of an "L". She wasn't even playing with it. She found it in her pocket and went to throw it away and got "Busted". This country is looking like pre-war Germany every day.

Pre war Germany? Pre war Germany was militarizing children by creating the hitler youth etc. do you know what you are talking about. I have noticed the "in thing" is to link the current government to nazism. I think you have to make up your mind - liberal or fascist? They are on about the extreme opposite political spectrum so you really cant be both? Like claiming he is a socialist in the pocket of big business. Folks need to get their definitions straight.

 

[packerbacker]

Yes, I agree, we should know and understand history. It can be repeated!
All hell broke loose on Nov. 10: "Nazis Smash, Loot and Burn Jewish Shops and Temples." "One of the first legal measures issued was an order by Heinrich Himmler, commander of all German police, forbidding Jews to possess any weapons whatever and imposing a penalty of twenty years confinement in a concentration camp upon every Jew found in possession of a weapon hereafter."[SUP]3[/SUP] Thousands of Jews were taken away.
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Searches of Jewish homes were calculated to seize firearms and assets and to arrest adult males. The American Consulate in Stuttgart was flooded with Jews begging for visas: "Men in whose homes old, rusty revolvers had been found during the last few days cried aloud that they did not dare ever again return to their places of residence or business. In fact, it was a mass of seething, panic-stricken humanity."[SUP]4[/SUP] Himmler, head of the Nazi terror police, would become an architect of the Holocaust, which consumed six million Jews. It was self evident that the Jews must be disarmed before the extermination could begin.
Finding out which Jews had firearms was not too difficult. The liberal Weimar Republic passed a Firearm Law in 1928 requiring extensive police records on gun owners. Hitler signed a further gun control law in early 1938.