K.G.C. symbols "Can you help to decode this?"

[L.C. BAKER]

Knights of the Golden Circle Symbol
I have joined this sight to try and get some help decoding some K.G.C. symbols. I will start with this one and see if there is anyone that can help me figure it out.
all input is greatly appreciated. . .




The 18 with the three dots above it in the shape of an inverted triangle, is written in the form of a date. 1874 the 7 has a trail of dots above it and the 4 has the three dots trailing off at a 45 degree angle to the south east of the base of the number 4. what is this telling me to do? On a separate clue the 18 with the inverted triangle of three dots appears again in the form of another year. As always any help is appreciated. Thank you.

 

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[L.C. BAKER]

It is only a picture that I drew for the internet of a symbol that is on a lead piece that is from about 1863-1870. no way to be absolute on it's actual year of age other than that. It is not white, but more of a natural grey and black. All of the markings in it are carved or stamped into it. the piece of lead has been poured into a shape and then printed when it was cooled. it has markings on both sides, and it is quite sophisticated in design. This is one of many markings and signs on the piece. It has been tied to a major player in the K.G.C. and without a doubt is authentic.
There are two of these type of markings. They both are what I think looks more like alchemy symbols. I have been leaning towards the symbol for the extraction of gold. What do you think?
Thanks, Baker

 

[cccalco]

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I think that it would remind some of the Cross of Lorraine which some would associate with the Tree of Life, which might make someone recall the "Bible Tree" in Arkansas, the home state of Grand Master Albert Pike. OR all of that could just be misleading.

 

[Dixiegal]

I think its KGC and I think its an overlay on a topo map. The lead piece was likely a marker. If you know where it was dug up and where it was pointed you might get a clue. If not you are pretty much SOL.

 

[twoauers]

Looks like the mark from a Confiderate Spy, showing a formation or a shape of a camp position possible, and sent to someone to show positions of people possibly or supply position, the date across the top was added later if it is that. This usually depends on the GPS location and what was in the area round it. Needs research to be sure though. I have seen that done on some relics also, some are carvings of battle lines sent to commanders from forward scouts. thats why I suggest I could be that. But those did not have dates carved across them though?

KGC- not so sure. They did not hide gold and info in Battle areas, to much to loose if found and the battle was lost- But, It could be map marks of a staging area for supplies also. Again...Location where it was found, the GPS positions it came out of the ground at if you have that. Maps if available dated 1860's etc.... All will help you find more about it. This is a very interesting find. Good Job hunting- and well done. Also, Look to area Universities with Civil War collections, you may find similar markings and info about them. Just some ideas. Best wishes.

Jon in Nashville

PS: was told once- the real work starts once you un-earth the relic!

 

[Shortstack]

It is only a picture that I drew for the internet of a symbol that is on a lead piece that is from about 1863-1870. no way to be absolute on it's actual year of age other than that. It is not white, but more of a natural grey and black. All of the markings in it are carved or stamped into it. the piece of lead has been poured into a shape and then printed when it was cooled. it has markings on both sides, and it is quite sophisticated in design. This is one of many markings and signs on the piece. It has been tied to a major player in the K.G.C. and without a doubt is authentic.
There are two of these type of markings. They both are what I think looks more like alchemy symbols. I have been leaning towards the symbol for the extraction of gold. What do you think?
Thanks, Baker

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My timing for reading this comment is strange. In just the last week, I watched a science or history spot on T.V. about how a scientist in China experimented with bombarding mercury with some kind of radiation in the attempts to change the mercury at the molecular level, into gold.............and he accomplished it. This happened hundreds of years ago and the question that was not answered was, 'how and with what source, did that guy bombard ANYTHING with radiation?"

 

[tlm5000]

Knights of the Golden Circle Symbol
I have joined this sight to try and get some help decoding some K.G.C. symbols. I will start with this one and see if there is anyone that can help me figure it out.
all input is greatly appreciated. . .

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The 18 with the three dots above it in the shape of an inverted triangle, is written in the form of a date. 1874 the 7 has a trail of dots above it and the 4 has the three dots trailing off at a 45 degree angle to the south east of the base of the number 4. what is this telling me to do? On a separate clue the 18 with the inverted triangle of three dots appears again in the form of another year. As always any help is appreciated. Thank you.

Looks like a Caravaca symbol meaning treasure here.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Looks like a Caravaca symbol meaning treasure here.

I agree; it DOES look Spanish.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

It could be the Caravaca symbol, but if so it is combined with the arch symbol ( cave , bridge, etc.) It is not connected with any other symbol on the map and stands alone. We are leaning more towards a combine symbol, but we do not know at this time what it means.
Thanks for the input, L.C. BAKER

 

[tlm5000]

It could be the Caravaca symbol, but if so it is combined with the arch symbol ( cave , bridge, etc.) It is not connected with any other symbol on the map and stands alone. We are leaning more towards a combine symbol, but we do not know at this time what it means.
Thanks for the input, L.C. BAKER

Can you post the whole map? I could find more insight on the symbols if I could see the entire thing. And did you carbon date it as well?

 

[L.C. BAKER]

We have identified several Spanish symbols, either complete or modified for use on this trail. So far we have identified Indian,Spanish and K.G.C. symbols and mapping techniques used, as well as simple Morris code in some documents. The Knights of the Golden Circle at the inner circle level (presidential)were all very educated scholars. Albert Pike could speak seven languages. I have trouble with English most days! LOL L.C. BAKER

 

[L.C. BAKER]

When I find the gold I will be glad to post the map. Until then I will keep it close to me. We have years of time spent working on it like an obsession. It is the holy grail to us. I will tell you, It is not just made of one piece of lead, it is made of several that fit together.
Thanks L.C. Baker

 

[tlm5000]

We have identified several Spanish symbols, either complete or modified for use on this trail. So far we have identified Indian,Spanish and K.G.C. symbols and mapping techniques used, as well as simple Morris code in some documents. The Knights of the Golden Circle at the inner circle level (presidential)were all very educated scholars. Albert Pike could speak seven languages. I have trouble with English most days! LOL L.C. BAKER

What state did you find this map? Or was it carved into a tree? Was it buried found in a cave a jar? Depending on where and how your map was found. All could lead to information bro.

 

[tlm5000]

When I find the gold I will be glad to post the map. Until then I will keep it close to me. We have years of time spent working on it like an obsession. It is the holy grail to us. I will tell you, It is not just made of one piece of lead, it is made of several that fit together.
Thanks L.C. Baker

Lead pieces? How was it broke? Or was it purposely put into pieces?

 

[tlm5000]

When I find the gold I will be glad to post the map. Until then I will keep it close to me. We have years of time spent working on it like an obsession. It is the holy grail to us. I will tell you, It is not just made of one piece of lead, it is made of several that fit together.
Thanks L.C. Baker

Start looking into how you found it and where if it was buried how many inches was into the earth? What type of bedrock / earth was it buried in? Did you take a soil sample for aging or rocks to date to get a time frame for when it was buried? What state? Was it in De Soto's Path? Was it in Civil war pay roll Areas? Did you look at the reverse sides? Are you missing pieces? If you found it in a cave find a cave was it man made? Or a Natural cave? If man made carbon date the wood planks. Thiers tongs of thing to do if you have not yet done it. To get a time fram. Once u get a date you can start looking into other information

 

[tlm5000]

Start looking into how you found it and where if it was buried how many inches was into the earth? What type of bedrock / earth was it buried in? Did you take a soil sample for aging or rocks to date to get a time frame for when it was buried? What state? Was it in De Soto's Path? Was it in Civil war pay roll Areas? Did you look at the reverse sides? Are you missing pieces? If you found it in a cave find a cave was it man made? Or a Natural cave? If man made carbon date the wood planks. Thiers tongs of thing to do if you have not yet done it. To get a time fram. Once u get a date you can start looking into other information

I don't think the date 18 - 74 numbers are a date btw

 

[L.C. BAKER]

it is divided into three different shapes, two crosses and a heart. All of them are maps in their self, and then when you put them together you can see a larger map of another area. They were all worn around the neck like medallions, but each inner circle member only had one piece of the big map around their neck.
Thanks for the input, L.C. BAKER

 

[L.C. BAKER]

It has been some what proven that it is not a date at all.
thanks BAKER

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Believe me sir, their is no reason to carbon date anything we have found. The area that the articles were found in, is civilized. We have been in this game for a long time. We know the people and the people that they knew, inside and out, their whole life histories and then some. They have been identified as part of the K.G.C.'s network of the initiated. The Knight's inner circle believe it or not, was at a presidential level. They were involved in filibusters etc. They had mine operations in northern mexico and other countries that this inner circle has been tied to by us. They were neck deep in the United States Government from !835 on into history.
At this point in the trail we have uncovered, we are with out a doubt 100% sure that it is K.G.C. through and through.
What we need now is the intelligence to figure out what has been left for us to find. It was up to the Knights to make sure that who ever reaped what they had sewn, was worthy of it. This to me means you will become one of the initiated by self taught knowledge that they wanted you to have, or you will never figure it out. It was their insurance that no infidel or heathen would ever lay their hands on K.G.C. booty. By doing this they had the best chance of some one just like them, with their standards and beliefs (religious and other) controlling the fortune they left behind. Doing what they wanted to be done with the money they hoarded, long after they were gone.
L.C. BAKER

 

[Herb Boyd]

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