You tell me what it is?

[Hill Billy]

Dug today, never seen anything like it.
Any ideas?

 

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[relichunters]

Looks like lincolns head like on a penny.

 

[Tony in SC]

Old charm,,,I meanOLD charm!!! Tony

 

[Lucas]

The arms look French. The workmanship looks a lot like what you see on Jesuit rings (pre-1760).

 

[Hill Billy]

Apparently it's a pocket watch winding key, but who is it on the face and what does it say?

 

[Hill Billy]

No effort put into this one I guess? Anybody?

 

[CRUSADER]

Apparently it's a pocket watch winding key, but who is it on the face and what does it say?

you beat me too it

No idea on the face, but the crown looks European (not British), so might be a King

 

[Mackaydon]

French would normally be showing 3 fleurs-de-lis, not four; maybe this is an exception--assuming they represent f-d-l.

 

[Lucas]

You're right. I was thinking of the Quebec flag... a cross and 4 fleurs de lis. :P

 

[Bramblefind]

You're right. I was thinking of the Quebec flag... a cross and 4 fleurs de lis. :P

Maybe that has something do do with it. I got this bit from the Wikipedia article on the flag of Quebec-

The fleurdelisé takes its white cross from the ancient royal flags of France and its white fleurs-de-lis and blue field from a banner honouring the Virgin Mary reputedly carried by French-Canadian militia at General Louis-Joseph de Montcalm's victory at Carillon (now Ticonderoga, New York). Contrary to popular belief, the fleurs-de-lis are not taken from the banner of the kings of France, who used golden fleurs-de-lis. The white fleurs-de-lis on Quebec's flag are symbols of purity, which originally represented the Virgin Mary. The flag is blazoned Azure, a cross between four fleurs-de-lis argent.

I was hoping maybe it read "Joseph de Montcalm" but I don't think that fits

Hill Billy - did you find this in Kentucky? Only asking b/c I have some family roots from there and have done some research on the Catholic migration in the 1780s out of Maryland to Kentucky. I know that a number of French priests came from France directly to the region (Nelson County area) to assist the Catholics in their settlement. So if you found it in that area maybe it is associated somehow.

 

[Breezie]

Are they letters around the head or decoration? Neat find, Breezie

 

[CRUSADER]

You're right. I was thinking of the Quebec flag... a cross and 4 fleurs de lis. :P

Maybe that has something do do with it. I got this bit from the Wikipedia article on the flag of Quebec-

The fleurdelisé takes its white cross from the ancient royal flags of France and its white fleurs-de-lis and blue field from a banner honouring the Virgin Mary reputedly carried by French-Canadian militia at General Louis-Joseph de Montcalm's victory at Carillon (now Ticonderoga, New York). Contrary to popular belief, the fleurs-de-lis are not taken from the banner of the kings of France, who used golden fleurs-de-lis. The white fleurs-de-lis on Quebec's flag are symbols of purity, which originally represented the Virgin Mary. The flag is blazoned Azure, a cross between four fleurs-de-lis argent.

I was hoping maybe it read "Joseph de Montcalm" but I don't think that fits

Hill Billy - did you find this in Kentucky? Only asking b/c I have some family roots from there and have done some research on the Catholic migration in the 1780s out of Maryland to Kentucky. I know that a number of French priests came from France directly to the region (Nelson County area) to assist the Catholics in their settlement. So if you found it in that area maybe it is associated somehow.

I think you right with word? (space)DE(space) word? but looks like TES (or TAS) DE ?

 

[mojjax]

I wonder if it's part of a Horse Brass Swinger

http://www.nationalhorsebrasssociet...iteExtra=12607593&TopNavId=31&NavSideId=13534

 

[Hill Billy]

You're right. I was thinking of the Quebec flag... a cross and 4 fleurs de lis. :P

Maybe that has something do do with it. I got this bit from the Wikipedia article on the flag of Quebec-

The fleurdelisé takes its white cross from the ancient royal flags of France and its white fleurs-de-lis and blue field from a banner honouring the Virgin Mary reputedly carried by French-Canadian militia at General Louis-Joseph de Montcalm's victory at Carillon (now Ticonderoga, New York). Contrary to popular belief, the fleurs-de-lis are not taken from the banner of the kings of France, who used golden fleurs-de-lis. The white fleurs-de-lis on Quebec's flag are symbols of purity, which originally represented the Virgin Mary. The flag is blazoned Azure, a cross between four fleurs-de-lis argent.

I was hoping maybe it read "Joseph de Montcalm" but I don't think that fits

Hill Billy - did you find this in Kentucky? Only asking b/c I have some family roots from there and have done some research on the Catholic migration in the 1780s out of Maryland to Kentucky. I know that a number of French priests came from France directly to the region (Nelson County area) to assist the Catholics in their settlement. So if you found it in that area maybe it is associated somehow.

Bramblefind, it was not found in Nelson cty but a 100 miles or so from there. This piece is smaller than a dime and it makes it hard to get a clear picture of the letters surrounding.
I think I see _ _VITAL DE FESSIL_ _ _ _ or _ _ VITAS DE FESSIL_ _ _
Thanks.

glad to see people working at solving this one.
Thanks for your help.

Hill

 

[Hill Billy]

bump

 

[CRUSADER]

bump

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,292379.0.html

The ones I found in the above are only a tiny fraction of the many different types produced, only luck will narrow this one down, research will be near impossible IMO.

 

[Hill Billy]

bump

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,292379.0.html

The ones I found in the above are only a tiny fraction of the many different types produced, only luck will narrow this one down, research will be near impossible IMO.

OK thanks for your help, all the ones you posted look like keys to an old clock, not a pocketwatch.
But eh what do I know.

 

[Bramblefind]

Here's another shot in the dark from me

Robert de Lasalle, Cavelier de Lasalle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/René-Robert_Cavelier,_Sieur_de_La_Salle

I think he was the first explorer into Kentucky.

 

[Mackaydon]

Can you use a toothbrush and soap in an attempt to read more of the letters; we're close.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Not fluer de lis...rather a Wreath around the sheild...no idea of the figure though

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